Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)

Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

[TaxRelief]

Just imagine what would happen in America if every FReeper read this book.

And every YR (Young Republican), and every young Libertarian and every young independent, and every conservative, and ...

[TaxRelief]

The way this country is going, that highway is going to end at the ocean, and then what will you do?

[Buckeroo]

Huh? Just mindless links that go nowhere, unauthenticated based upon your beliefs in dogma? Think of your attitude towards me this way .... you are choosing to live a lie and can not authenticate someone's post .... you probably can't even authenticate the fact that at one time here in America, we stood for decency about our individual rights, liberties and freedoms ... not political parties destroying the same.

[Cathryn Crawford]

You should consider yourself lucky.

Power trips - I can tell you many stories - one incredibly horrible, one that changed my life - about how CPS allowed its people to ruin the lives of people for the sake of convienience and power.

[Lady Eileen]

"But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime." Frederic Bastiat - The Law

[Dan from Michigan]

The way this country is going, that highway is going to end at the ocean, and then what will you do?

What does any animal do when it is cornered??

I don't have kids, but if I choose to homeschool, and have to deal with this BS, I do what I have to do.

[TaxRelief]

Just mindless links that go nowhere, unauthenticated based upon your beliefs in dogma?

Bartleby.com states the following:

Quotation: When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

Attribution: Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6, 1933. Quoted in William L. Shirer, “Education in the Third Reich,” ch. 8, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (1959).

You will have to take the book out of the library, because I cannot find the text on line.

[Lady Eileen]

"Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." Frederic Bastiat -The Law

[TaxRelief]

Is there anywhere else on the planet that is as free as America? And if our freedoms are eventually taken away, is ther anywhere we can flee to?

[Dan from Michigan]

Is there anywhere else on the planet that is as free as America?

Not even close.

And if our freedoms are eventually taken away, is ther anywhere we can flee to?

Nope. Like I said before, what does any animal do when it's cornered.

[TaxRelief]

In the words of another great man--"inalienable rights". Are you quoting from memory?

[Lady Eileen]

And if our freedoms are eventually taken away, is ther anywhere we can flee to?

No : (

[TaxRelief]

If there is no where else to go, then we must stay and fight. And our fight must begin with the children. We must disassociate as many children as possible from any government influence.

[Buckeroo]

You can't find it, because the quote doesn't exist. I agree you may find similar quotes exalting the state; but it doesn't deny my challenge. Sorry you feel I am picking on you. I am impressed that you even attempt substantiating someone's bathroom wall quotes.

[Lady Eileen]

Are you quoting from memory?

I wish... click here.

[TaxRelief]

I absolutely did find it. Didn't you read? That quote is definitely in Shirer's book "Education in the Third Reich,” in chapter 8, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (published in 1959).

Are you looking at the book right now and you still don't see it?

Do you think it does not exist unless I bring the book to your house and point to it with my finger on the page in front of your eyes?

[TaxRelief]

the quote doesn't exist

What secret knowledge do you have disproving William Shirer's historical tome?

[Lady Eileen]

We also need to return to the historical Christian understanding of the three spheres of government: the family, the church and the state.

R.C. Sproul notes--Originally .... Each institution had its distinctive tasks to perform and neither was to usurp the other's sphere of authority.

[Lady Eileen]

If there is no where else to go, then we must stay and fight. And our fight must begin with the children. We must disassociate as many children as possible from any government influence.

I agree.

[Lady Eileen]

298 was for you also.