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To: justshutupandtakeit
Oh, please. Could you be any more inflammatory? The Civil War was not about slavery. In fact, Lincoln himself once said that he would keep slavery to preserve the Union. The War of Northern Agression (as its known in the South) was about political and economic power. Slavery was already on its way out when the war began, and most Southerners didn't even own slaves.

Our Founders envisioned a limited Federal government. Lincoln wanted a centralized, all-powerful Federal government. He arrested people and held them without charges, suspending the writ of habeus corpus, and a whole host of other bad actions that would make any power-hungry dictator proud.

Ever-faithful to the vision of limited government put forth by our founders, I am a REAL American.

Your vitriolic attacks against those who disagree with your estimation of Lincoln makes YOU unworthy of regard on any serious issue.

So there.
39 posted on 06/12/2003 12:32:16 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Henrietta
Sure I could be more inflammatory. For the South the Civil War was TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY about Slavery. For the North the war was over preservation of the Union. Lincoln's comment was merely stating what he had said before the war. He would not have abolished slavery since that would have been unconstitutional. However, that didn't stop the idiots from the Slaverocracy from perpetrating their idiocy.

Only among the whacky in the South is the war called anything other than the Civil War or the War Between the States. Your silly label has only recently been dredged up by the ideologues who represent a VERY small percentage of Southerners.

It is a lie that slavery was on its way out. The fact that the Slaverocrats were a small percentage of the south means little since they totally controlled it politically. Freedom of action was not just denied the Blacks but also the poor whites. Since there was so little education in the South it was relatively easy to drag the masses into the Ruling Class's war. Nothing unusual about that, most German soldiers were not Nazis nor Russians commies.
40 posted on 06/12/2003 1:03:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Henrietta
Oh, and there was a very limited government when Lincoln took power. It was tiny and would have remained so had the Traitors not attacked the Union.

If you believe there is any right to secession within the Constitution you clearly do not understand it or the founders ideas. NONE supported the idea of a right to secession. Nor can any tittle of the constitution be changed by anything other than an amendment. No state action can change the Union unilaterally.

Lincoln's actions in WAR were forced upon him by the oath he took becoming president. His actions were even less than those Andy Jackson would have taken had S. Carolina not backed down over nullification. Jackson would most definitely have hung J. Davis and many others for their treason.
41 posted on 06/12/2003 1:09:17 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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