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To: Tailgunner Joe
I think most of the women who are confident they can bring up children on their own, at least as well as with a father, are probably quite correct. In an ideal family the father contributes a great deal, especially to keeping boys on the right track. But drunken, carousing, womanizing, in-and-out-of-jail fathers, are more trouble than they're worth, and set a horrific example for their children.

When I see that 64% of black women think the kids are just as well off with only a mother, I know they're thinking of the men/fathers in their own communities, a huge percentage of whom fit the unflattering description above. Kids who grow up in two parent homes generally do better because the kind of adults who maintain two parent homes are generally more sane and stable. Just tossing in the biological father, when he has no inclination toward helping maintain a stable home, or towards holding down a job, or towards staying off drugs, etc. will not improve the results of children's upbringing. The proof is in the results for children raised by mothers who were widowed early in the children's lives, or even before their births -- they get very nearly the same results as children who grew up with both parents, so the presence of the father isn't really essential.
3 posted on 06/11/2003 6:38:17 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Yes. Feminist social engineering in the inner cities has worked quite well, I think, if the goal has been to destroy families and create an entire caste of violent, predatory young men.

Nature is bigger than the egalitarian nonsense we currently embrace. Children need both parents.

6 posted on 06/11/2003 6:45:27 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I think most of the women who are confident they can bring up children on their own, at least as well as with a father, are probably quite correct. In an ideal family the father contributes a great deal, especially to keeping boys on the right track. But drunken, carousing, womanizing, in-and-out-of-jail fathers, are more trouble than they're worth, and set a horrific example for their children.

Most? Give me a break. Totally faulty logic. Most of the divorces are not because of "drunken, carousing, womanizing, in-and-out-of-jail fathers". Most are people who decide they "fell out of love". Most are "no fault", which may as well be called "no good reason".

Not to mention the wives who get divorces because they are the ones cheating, and men who leave because of problems the wife has.

The truth is that there has not been a single comprehensive study that didn't show that children in homes without fathers are more likely to have issues with drugs, alcohol, crime and suicide.

10 posted on 06/11/2003 7:08:57 PM PDT by sharktrager (There are 2 kids of people in this world: people with loaded guns and people who dig.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
In my family of brain-dead liberals there are five females counting me and my mom. My mentally handicapped sister and I are the only females in the family who think having a mother AND a father raise a child is better than being a single mother.

Sister Number 1: married and divorced three times; all of her kids dropped out of high school, one actually managed to make something of her life at age 23--other two are still floundering around in their early 20's.

Sister Number 2: Mentally handicapped, never married

Sister Number 3: Fooled around on her husband (had two kids with him first) got pregnant by another man while still married to #1, married husband #2 who has been unemployed for 8 years. Oldest son dropped out of high school, eventually got his GED but still can't drive at age 25 because of a drunk driving accident 3 years ago. Oldest daughter made it through high school, has had one abortion already. Next oldest daughter is on probation for assaulting her parents and grandparents, spent a month in jail for the assaults, has been sexually active, running away and doing drugs since age 14. Youngest daugher is 8 years old, and I pray for her little soul every single day.

Sister #4: Married an abusive mean guy, made two babies with him. Divorced for 20 years now and still bitter. Son dropped out of high school but eventually got his diploma. Daughter miraculously is a good student at a university but has the same "I hate men and George" Bush hostile attitude as her mother.

Me: I'm a right wing wackoe who's "had it too easy" (according to my sisters) because I married a good Catholic man who's faithful, loving and is a good provider. Don't know how our 15 year old daughter will ultimately turn out, but so far she's a good kid who loves God, respects adults, and hasn't gotten into drugs, sex, or alcohol.

Yes, I agree--it's women (especially those with an attitude......) who are largely responsible for the false and WRONG notion that a single mom can raise a child just as well as two parents can!!!

40 posted on 06/12/2003 9:18:11 AM PDT by RooRoobird14 ("Clinton is a rapist, Hillary is his pimp")
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