Pop Quiz (Multiple Personality Disorder Tribute Thread)


As it turns out, neither of those screen names had a future, Mr. Anderson.

The Great Satan... watching Hatfill, 24x7

Welcome back!

It appears we may not have gotten Saddam or his sons, and we didn't find the WMD. George Bush and Tony Blair are taking an enormous political hit as a result. They are both astute politicians, with access to excellent intel.

Everything beyond that at this point is pure speculation.

So what're they gonna find when they drain the swamp?

Interesting. I'd seen the header for that mail when Googling for Michie, but was never able to call up the whole thing. The "Scorpions" he refers to are an elite detective squad inaugurated by the South African goverment a few years ago: Scorpions target South African crime.

It certainly looks like Dr. John Michie of the University of Stellenbosch Radiobiology Lab is indeed "Scorpion," the individual who spread many of the rumors about Hatfill on South African bulletin boards, including supporting disinfo for the famous "Greendale School" talking point. Based on information I have obtained privately, it appears also that Michie provided Stephen Dresch with the e-mail concerning Hatfill allegedly sent by Prof. Bohm to Prof. Kirby, implicating all three men in gross scientific misconduct. On top of that, Michie seems to be the source for much of the material on Alan J. Weberman's "STEVE HATFILL NAZI SWINE" hate page at the JDO web site, material supposedly implicating Hatfill in white supremacist activity. If Michie supplied the e-mail to Dresch, then I would guess that he also supplied the page from Hatfill's Stellenbosch lab notebook that is reproduced on Weberman's site.

All of which raises a host of questions. If Michie is a really an enemy of Hatfill and a genuine whistle-blower, then Hatfill, Kirby, Bohm are all charlatans. Michie himself is likely, on that scenario, also a somewhat disturbed individual, inasmuch as he has been a colleague of Hatfill's thesis advisor, Bohm, since at least 1989, and authored a paper with him as recently as 2000. Odd that he would choose to collaborate scientifically with a man he knew to be a scoundrel and a charlatan. Odd that he would expose a friend like that, anonymously. Odd that he would choose to make his case through the medium of Andrew J. Weberman, the eccentric Bob Dylan "garbologist" whose Lower Manhattan apartment was used as a sniper nest by Mordechai Levy. Odd that not a wit of supporting evidence for the melodramatic tale of Hatfill's wholesale scientific deception is to be found in the public domain, and odd that his papers, including the supposedly fraudulent MSc work, are still being referenced in prestigious scientific journals to this very day.

There is another explanation for all this bizarreness, and it is the one I favor. The e-mail supplied by Michie is, IMHO, a sophisticated fraud. I say sophisticated, because the author clearly has a good understanding of molecular biology, and the "inside baseball" talk in the e-mail is quite impressive, and suggests at the very minimum considerable insight into Hatfill's MSc thesis work. This stuff is right up my alley, professionally, but I had to dig around a bit to understand what the "DIAGEN" reference and the "GC clamp" talk were about -- these details refer to the very specialized Thermal Gradient Gel Electrophoresis technique Hatfill used for the Lancet paper and are not, incidentally, discussed in that publication. Aside from noting the sophistication, one would have to assume that, if the e-mail is a fraud, the perp is either very confident that he will not be sued by the three men implicated in gross scientific conduct, and quite happy to completely trash their reputations -- or, the perp knows perfectly well that none of those individuals will raise a ruckus about the e-mail, and, even in the unlikely event someone other than the smeared parties tried to make an issue of it, the whole matter would soon be exposed as a Internet hoax and melt away in the light of day -- perhaps because the e-mail address in the To: line of the header puts Ralph Kirby in Taiwan in 1993, when he didn't move to Yang Ming university until ten years later.

On that second scenario, the author of the e-mail is likely Steven Jay Hatfill himself. Michie, who is probably a friend and confidante rather than an arch-foe of Hatfill, is acting as Hatfill's "cut-out" to feed superficially incriminating but ultimately toothless "evidence" into the Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce. Hatfill's Msc thesis advisor, Bohm, and his PhD thesis advisor, Kirby, are also old friends -- they've authored many papers together and Kirby was introduced to his wife by Hatfill -- and they are in the know, or at least have been given a heads up by Hatfill. They know "everything is under control" and "it's a national security issue" and Hatfill isn't a a cold-blooded murderer, nor is he in any danger of being railroaded and sent to the Florida death house, and everything's gonna be alright, and in the mean time, they should just keep their mouths shut.

And that is what my best guess as to what's really going on here. Care to hazard your own theories?

"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." — Winston Churchill

From a scott Shane article, apparently not on FR, and I hadn't seen it before tonight:

Scientist theorized anthrax mail attack - FBI searched apartment of expert linked to study (June 27, 2002)

"...In the case of Hatfill, it is unclear why FBI agents waited at least six months after they first questioned him to conduct a thorough search of his home. One possibility: a briefing last week for Senate staffers by biologist Barbara Hatch Rosenberg.
Rosenberg, who heads a biological weapons working group at the Federation of American Scientists, has repeatedly criticized the bureau for failing to aggressively pursue a "likely suspect" whom she has not named but who closely resembles Hatfill. Her Senate briefing was attended by Van Harp, who heads the anthrax investigation as assistant FBI director in charge of the Washington field office, and three other FBI agents.

This, again, is my take:

Daschle and Leahy are angry no progress is, apparently, being made. Naturally, because they were the targets. The staffers meet with media-anointed expert Barbara Rosenberg. She gives her pitch, which I call Portrait of a Possible Frame Job

The staffers are impressed with Rosenberg's delivery, and her verisimilitude of scientific knowledge, expertise, and insider access to the industry. Additionally, since Hatfill might fit the "right wing guy" profile, connections to Rhodesia seem ominous, and these democratic staffers might be more receptive to Rosenberg's pitch thereby.

Staffers brief the boss, Daschle. He gets on the horn and says why isn't this guy being taken out? He might have threatened jobs and funding too, alarmed that the man who tried to kill him was not being pursued. In fact, I can't imagine him not making any threats, under the influence of Rosenberg's portrait.

Within days, Project Hatfill began. Leaks about searches and the like kept it public and in the minds of staffers and Daschle. The semblance of progress is being made, pressure is taken off, funding continues. Investigators start to believe the Hatfill scenario themselves. Lots of time and effort and prestige has been invested in it.

The timing of the Project Hatfill fits the Daschle meeting scenario, and, IMO, fits an explanation that is plausible within established scenarios of bureaucratic politics.

War on terror:FBI guilty of cover-up over anthrax suspect(Rosenberg knows name she says)

Before the Daschle meeting, June 16, Rosenberg had this to say:

"...Rosenberg said she knows who that person is and so do a top-level clique of US government scientists, the CIA, the FBI and the White House.
"Early in the investigation," Rosenberg told Scotland on Sunday, "a number of inside experts, at least five that I know about, gave the FBI the name of one specific person as the most likely suspect. That person fits the FBI profile in most respects. He has the right skills, experience with anthrax, up-to-date anthrax vaccination, forensic training, and access to the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (AMRIID) and its biological agents through 2001." ..."

In September, after the meeting, and after Hatfill's statements about Rosenberg, she might have changed her mind, or conducted some CYA to show, after the fact, that she wasn't single-minded about Hatfill:

FBI Criticized for Failing to Solve Anthrax Case (Hatfill plus Rosenberg Alert)

"...Rosenberg said she has sent a new commentary about the anthrax attacks to the FBI, but would not make it available to others. She said she did not want to interfere with the proceeding investigation by making public statements. ..."

Ping.

My other screen name is Admin Moderator. ;-)

Rosenberg was merely a disposable useful idiot exploited by the Bush administration in the early phases of the campaign. In phase one, the administration focused on developing left-wing useful idiots to sell the Amerithrax story. By making the Hatfill story a left-wing cause celebre, the administration ensured that their biggest potential problem -- well-funded and antagonistic liberal news outlets and watchdog groups -- would actually end up being suckered into promoting their own cover story. Once that was accomplished, they pulled the rug out from under the folks they had coaxed into priming the pump. Rosenberg and, more importantly, Kristof, dropped the story like a hot potato. It is in the nature of the operation that the coals are continually being raked over to keep the fires burning, but the primary focus since last August has been to develop right-wing useful idiots to rant and rave about how Hatfill has been railroaded, he's the victim of political correctness, the FBI is a hopelessly corrupt bastion of Clintonian malfeasance, yada, yada, yada. The carnival barker-like figure of Pat Clawson, Hatfill's friend and Oliver North's flunkie, has been the head shill for that side of the con. Both sides have been manipulated effortlessly, because most people believe that ideology, like religion, is a substitute for critical thought. The people who are running this show know their audience well. They're real pros, and they're almost ready to bring this thing home now. Watch.

"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." — Winston Churchill
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." — P. T. Barnum

...the only ones left that actually escaped from the sleeper agents of the Warren Commission are JFK and Oswald, who were separated at birth, and faked their own deaths. Elvis, the CIA sleeper, was the one that tried to shoot Kennedy from the grassy knoll...

...there IS NO OIL under Iraq...it is all a coverup...the real oil is UNDER ISRAEL but nobody knows that...the pipeline is built from a plasiconcrete invented by NICOLAS TELSA! It was put in place a six thousand years ago by Egyptian "gods"...

Hey, I think this is Art Bell's topic tonight!

The timing of the Project Hatfill fits the Daschle meeting scenario, and, IMO, fits an explanation that is plausible within established scenarios of bureaucratic politics.

As best can be determined from public domain sources, the genesis of Project Hatfill was the National Security Council meeting of October 17, 2001 -- the meeting described on p. 248 of Bob Woodward's authorized history of the Afghanistan campaign, Bush at War. It was at that meeting that, in response to an intelligence assessment that the anthrax threats emanated from a state sponsor of the 9/11 attacks, Vice President Dick Cheney made a decision that the truth be kept from the American people. Ten days after that meeting took place, the "domestic terrorism" story was pump-primed by none other than our old friend, Bob Woodward, writing in the Washington Post: FBI and CIA Suspect Domestic Extremists - Officials Doubt Any Links to Bin Laden.

The rest is history -- 1984-style history, anyway.

Wow, a double-dose of snow today?

I forgot something in my "take" above: the authority of the Mr. Z Kristof article in the NYTimes. All Washington read it. It was crafty. Senators reading likely would say "Why isn't anything being done about Mr. Z?" Plus all the Rosenberg play in other articles. It created the environment where Rosenberg alone would be the authority, validated by the press attention she garnered.

The timing of the Project Hatfill fits the Daschle meeting scenario, and, IMO, fits an explanation that is plausible within established scenarios of bureaucratic politics.

This sounds very plausible. The last two weeks in June, 2002 seem to have been very busy.

Poor Mr. Hatfield can do a whole lot better than Connolly s a lawyer to represent his bonified case of government harrassment. Connolly can't even spell worth a damn - and has admitted so to the Post. Let's put it this way either he can't spell (be his own admission) or he he is just a poor liar.

Connolly - has done bungling, obfuscating, poor spelling, false assuming, and boardline purgury on my own trail to civil rights trampling when he testified in open court regarding the search warrant that he applied for, received, and read.

He said that he assumed it to be surreptious - tho he did not ask for such a warrant and NEVER has in all his career. When then asked why he did not request one "I do not know how to spell the word."

I guess he was working in a vacuum that did not have either a hardcopy dictionary or a PC with a spell checker. In my opinion, that vacuum does not exist.

Neither does a place in our legal system for those to obfuscate the truth,
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth ... so help me God.