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To: risk
A good post. But from the interviews I have seen with American WWII vets- they were not fighting for absracts such as "freedom". They fought for each other. The same was true among the Germans we fought against. Ideology had no place on the front lines in any of the armies fighting- Russian troops would kill political "officers" by "accident" all the time.
23 posted on 06/07/2003 6:50:59 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
They fought for each other.

Due to the draft (10 million according to Wartime Draft Comparisons), you may be correct that many didn't go because they felt compelled by their own motivations. However, the soldiers I've known personally each did. My grandmother sent four sons to war, and her husband reenlisted. And they all went for a variety of personal reasons, but the common factor was preservation of the republic.

For an example of a personal reason, my youngest uncle had been captured by the Japanese on Wake, so my younger father immediately enlisted in the army airforce thinking his contribution would help end the war sooner and bring home his closest brother. But he also knew about the Jewish concentration camps, and he knew that if we didn't stop Hitler, he would enslave the whole human race, aside from a few brainwashed or greedy Germans. This kind of fear awakened both patriotism and a will to action that placed their own lives at a lower value than that of the republic.

My family arrived here in 1655, and our British-born forebear was a military man. I think that story has repeated itself throughout American history: the men who built this country bore sons who knew when to answer the call of liberty. What about me? I'm not as brave, I haven't given anything. But I'm fiercely proud of my family, and even more grateful for the troops who engaged in amphibious assaults like D-day and the island-hopping war in the Pacific.

24 posted on 06/07/2003 7:06:43 PM PDT by risk
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To: Burkeman1; centurion316; Vinnie; fourdeuce82d; RaceBannon; Freedom_Is_Not_Free
But from the interviews I have seen with American WWII vets- they were not fighting for absracts such as "freedom".

What are your sources? Your comments about Russian troops killing their political officers is very telling. While Stalin was purging his officers via death and lining up machine guns to kill those foot soldiers who retreated at the front, a front which represented the edge of safety for the Russian fatherland, Americans were put on boats and planes to go and hunt the enemy.

In other words, we had our propaganda, we had our ideology, and we took it to heart. This is what Americans do. When we decide to fight, there is no turning back. We will cross mountains, oceans, and fire to fight the enemy on his turf, against his emplacements, against his ideologies. And we will not need machine guns behind us. Never. That will be the end of the Republic.

Sure, many Americans were just there because they were told to go. But remember, Americans are not very likely to do anything they don't understand or don't agree is useful. That's the way we are.

43 posted on 06/10/2003 1:31:17 AM PDT by risk (Live free or die.)
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