[independentmind]

re your #112

: Stating that abortion is morally wrong is not logical?

I'm glad to see someone point this out. I think perhaps CC should substititue the word logic with reason. Perhaps she should examine how human reason is often corrupted by human will.

Either objective morality exists or it doesn't. If it does,it should be understandable through human reason. If it doesn't, we're well down the road to nihilism.

[independentmind]

Did anyone ever notice how most acts that have traditionally been defined as immoral have negative psychological, physical and/or spiritual consequences for individuals? Maybe there's a connection there somewhere....

[k2blader]

Either objective morality exists or it doesn't.

Excellent point.

Assuming one is able to reason that morality exists, how is it possible for him to believe it can be "left out" of anything?