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Libertarian Group Aiming for U.S. State Takeover
Reuters ^ | June 04, 2003 | Kristin Roberts

Posted on 06/05/2003 3:36:35 AM PDT by Pern

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1 posted on 06/05/2003 3:36:35 AM PDT by Pern
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To: Pern
I am thinking of ruling the Universe! Of course I would start small, a few planets at a time, I don't want to bite off more than I can chew!
2 posted on 06/05/2003 4:04:11 AM PDT by BushCountry
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To: BushCountry
The LP can't get enough people elected to run a phone booth in Miami.
3 posted on 06/05/2003 4:10:35 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
The LP can't get enough people elected to run a phone booth in Miami.

The LP couldn't get enough members to agree which phone booth, let alone run for election to run it. Never has a good idea been so abused as libertarianism has by the LP.

4 posted on 06/05/2003 4:14:51 AM PDT by Young Rhino (Does God Wear a Tinfoil Hat? Is he a member of the CFR and Trilateral Commission?)
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To: Impeach the Boy
a little off topic. but during our state fair (arkansas) if you buy a booth you have to buy it for 10 days and it has to be manned for 2 hours a day. All the political parties usually have a booth. of course the democrats dont really have to man thier booth who's going to tell them to follow the rules. So us libertarians put our literature on thier booth and put a sign up "democrats support removal of food tax" which was untrue (we were trying to remove the states food tax, btw we lost) and that stuff stayed there for 5 days lol.
5 posted on 06/05/2003 4:20:30 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek
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To: Pern
Maine should be bankrupt in about two years, you guys are welcome to come up here.
6 posted on 06/05/2003 4:24:45 AM PDT by ozone1 (Support the Snowe Removal Campaign)
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To: Pern
YES!!! Give em some state nobody cares about and let them screw it up (or prove me wrong). While you're at maybe you we can let a state go communist too. As long as they do thier wacky experiments there and leave the rest of us alone, GOOD maybe they'll learn something (maybe we all will).

I just hope they don't pick a state with people in it. Gosh I'd feel sorry for them!!!
7 posted on 06/05/2003 4:26:06 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy (I"m Game)
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
Personally, I'm not a Libertarian, but some of their ideas sound pretty good, especially those about less government, ending the War on Drugs, and a fair tax system, just to name a few.

The two dominant parties of our political system have had the past 200+ years, and all they've managed to do is screw it up. Time for a change.

8 posted on 06/05/2003 4:42:33 AM PDT by Pern ("It's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people." - Johnny Cash)
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To: Young Rhino
And, it would have to be a privately owned phone booth on a private toll road :)
9 posted on 06/05/2003 5:05:31 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Pern
Yes, I agree they've got some nice ideas like ending WOD and fiscal responsiblity. Hell I've voted for some because I thought they'd at least try to tackle goverment waste and of coarse to send a message to the powers that be. I've listened to one speak in college who I liked. I'm sure he wouldn't get a lot of respect here since he suggested disbanning the professional military. When they get into funding things like the police with donations, I am reminded of the mob. Thier extream faith in unregulated captialism reminds me of an extream faith in central economic planning.

If you want to get rid of the duopoly of political power in this country, you might be interested in things like Proportional Representation and my favorite Instant Run-off Voting. They allow you to vote for you want while not helping who you don't want. Have you heard of these things? If you want I can find you some links.
10 posted on 06/05/2003 5:10:17 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy (I"m Game)
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To: Pern
The numbers here make no sense. Vermont is one of the states they have targeted and yet in the last election (not even a Presidential election) it took 103,000 votes to win the governors office.

So they are talking about bringing 15,000 people here to add their votes to the whopping 1432 votes they got last time. They would still have been a distant 4th in this last election.
11 posted on 06/05/2003 5:30:39 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Freedom: America's finest export.)
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To: Pern
In other news Chaing Kai Shek plans to return to the mainland and crush the Reds.
12 posted on 06/05/2003 5:34:23 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (A bad day FReepin' beats a good day workin'.)
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To: BushCountry
I am thinking of ruling the Universe! Of course I would start small, a few planets at a time, I don't want to bite off more than I can chew!

Then you will need...
The Evil Overlord List

13 posted on 06/05/2003 5:38:49 AM PDT by 50sDad (OK, I'm a GEEK!)
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To: Impeach the Boy
This would be like tring to run Nazi Germany by committee.
14 posted on 06/05/2003 5:42:03 AM PDT by 50sDad (OK, I'm a GEEK!)
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
While you're at maybe you we can let a state go communist too.

That's being tried in about 50 as we speak. The purpose of the Free State Project is to return the State to our Republican nature. In essence, they intend to deliver what the GOP always promises but can never manage even when in power - to reduce government spending.

I just hope they don't pick a state with people in it. Gosh I'd feel sorry for them!!!

Do you feel sorry for the Indians?

15 posted on 06/05/2003 5:58:14 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: 50sDad
The list was entertaining, especially number 100.
16 posted on 06/05/2003 6:24:16 AM PDT by BushCountry
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"That's being tried in about 50 as we speak. "
Democratic Socialism isn't quite communism, or at least not the kind of one party communism we saw in east Europe. You may argue it decays into that, but I'd think you'd missing the whole democracy aspect, if you did. Personally I think there is a continum there going from little goverment envolvement in the economy to very heavy management.

I heard Oregon put up to a public vote wether to raise an income tax that would then pay for state run health care. That would be an experiment going in the other dirrection.

Personaly, I say go for it. I don't want the world to become so hemogenized that nobody tries new things. I'm all for state experimentation.

I've got one question: what can you do about income tax on the state level? It seems like they would have to leave the Union to really try everything they'd want to do. Would they take with them thier share of the national debt? the military? Would they stay in NAFTA?
17 posted on 06/05/2003 6:25:16 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy (Yup)
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To: Pern
Well, I'll root for them in Vermont and Delaware.
18 posted on 06/05/2003 6:25:28 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
i think they already tried that experiment in tennessee called tenncare......its bankrupting the state and lots of dead or non-existant people are recieving healthcare
19 posted on 06/05/2003 6:39:09 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek
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To: Tijeras_Slim


An ant once found a mound of sugar. With all its strength it lifted a grain in its mandibles, and said to itself, "And when I return I'll get all the rest!"

20 posted on 06/05/2003 6:48:40 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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