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1 posted on 06/04/2003 10:26:01 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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2 posted on 06/04/2003 10:30:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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Like this is a new tactic for the Dems and Gov Davis.
They lie to themselves in the mirror while they shave or pluck their facial hairs...
Why not lie to people they really don't care about..
After all the ends justify the means, and it is good for the children, isn't it.
4 posted on 06/04/2003 10:40:35 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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I guess since this "petition" of theirs is not officially filed or legally binding, they're not subject to the laws with respect to petition signature gathering, such as 18600(a), which reads:

18600. Every person is guilty of a misdemeanor who:
(a) Circulating, as principal or agent, or having charge or control of the circulation of, or obtaining signatures to, any state or local initiative, referendum or recall petition, intentionally misrepresents or intentionally makes any false statement concerning the contents, purport or effect of the petition to any person who signs, or who desires to sign, or who is requested to sign, or who makes inquiries with reference to it, or to whom it is presented for his or her signature.

But in any case, we should all keep an eye on their tactics - Division 18, Chapter 7 of the California Elections code provides some stiff penalties for various forms of dirty tricks that they're likely to pull given this demonstration of their mendacity, such as false or inelgible signatures (check ID!!), multiple signatures, bribes, threats, theft of petitions, etc.

5 posted on 06/04/2003 10:42:21 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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"I called him a liar and threw the petition at him and stormed out," she said.

I would have been a little more outspoken.... By tearing his signature sheets into shreds. Let him submit a bunch of signature sheets scotch-taped together....

If he can. ;)

7 posted on 06/04/2003 10:49:54 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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Great catch!
The viewer should have torn up the bogus 5 pages!

And then held onto them for evidence and called the cops!
8 posted on 06/04/2003 11:08:43 PM PDT by Doompieyashick
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I sign nothing before I read it....afraid I may sell my soul to the devil....
9 posted on 06/04/2003 11:24:27 PM PDT by Feiny (I will serve no fries before their time....)
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Johnson took a closer look and noticed the petition she was about to sign was in support of Davis. It was an anti-recall petition. "I called him a liar and threw the petition at him and stormed out," she said.

She should have grabbed the petition and ran with it.

14 posted on 06/05/2003 6:37:32 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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Wills could be right about this. Still, it's a black eye for the anti-recall people.
15 posted on 06/05/2003 6:40:40 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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In downtown Sac yesterday, I passed a card table set up to collect "recall" signatures. Now, I hate to stereotype, but the people behind the table were a woman who, quite frankly, looked like a welfare mother, and a slovenly man who looked like a labor organizer. Their sign -- "Recall Davis" -- looked like it had been prepared with a Magic Marker on the inside panel of a cereal box. The whole operation looked sloppy and low-rent. I wouldn't have given the duo much notice, except for reports that there are paid trolls getting people to sign what they think are recall petitions, only to have the petitions thrown away at the end of the day. Of course, anyone who suckers into signing the counterfeit petition now thinks they've signed a legitimate petition, and won't sign another one. The effort will fail, but it's devious, which is why we call him "Gray Devious."
26 posted on 06/05/2003 9:29:03 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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Some jackass on DU was claiming to have recieved petition forms and was going to submit a bunch of bogus names to discredit the recall effort so this doesn't surprise me.

But hey only Republicans do dirty tricks, right?

30 posted on 06/05/2003 11:16:26 AM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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LOL! This is so predictable. Davis lied to get elected and his followers and he will lie to keep him in. If lying was illegal in politics, Davis would be in jail with many others doing 25 to life on three strikes.
33 posted on 06/05/2003 12:09:01 PM PDT by breakem
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What? Democrats cheating?

You mean to tel us that the democrats that always whine about 'fairness' are lying and cheating?

I'm shocked, just shocked!

34 posted on 06/05/2003 12:12:42 PM PDT by Bullish
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As soon as I heard the Davis team was concocting this pro-Davis petition stuff, I knew they'd be lying to the people signing. I'm not much concerned if people think they're signing a pro-education petition, since the pro-Davis petition has no effect. I'd be more concerned if the lie was that this was the recall petition, which would make people think they'd already signed when they hadn't.
35 posted on 06/05/2003 12:53:16 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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Thanks for posting.
36 posted on 06/06/2003 7:18:58 AM PDT by freekitty
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Ran into some Davis supporters last year in LA when we Freeped him at the debate. RonDog, Jessamine, TonyInHawaii, Outraged were among our Freepin' crew. The thugs that carried the Davis signs were all decked out in matching black T-shirts. They were so loud and rude. Obviously paid protestors. They try to intimidate everyone else.
37 posted on 06/06/2003 9:22:47 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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The pro-Davis petition holds no legal weight. A primary purpose is to fool people into believing they have signed the recall petition so that they won't then sign the real one. Please read the following: "Davis reall tactics may be hailed as inventive, ingenius"
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stories/0,1413,206~11851~1439921,00.html

There was a time when this kind of thing was called "dirty tricks" and would quickly bring about resignations. Now in the post-Clinton era an intentional deception of the public is called "ingenius".

The other obvious purpose of the Davis petition will be for public relations -- to wave in front of TV cameras as a counter to the 1,000,000 recall pretition signatures.
38 posted on 06/08/2003 6:12:48 PM PDT by MoralValues.info
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