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To: Coleus
Lots of good info there.  But, a little too much for most people to digest at one time.

Also, although there is a definite move toward a NWO, a lot of the stuff that you cited assumes some great organized conspiracy, of which there is none - at least not aimed at a NWO.  The NWO movement is nothing more that a very public attempt by many international businessmen, to create a stable world in which to do business.  I don't happen to agree with all of their ideas.  But, as a person who deals on the periphery of that group, I feel certain that there is no great conspiracy behind that movement - just the profit motive being acted upon in a similar manner by a lot of individuals with similar interests.

I can say that factually, because I know more than a few billionaires and the one thing that is inescapable is that none of them would want to be a part of any great plan to take over the world unless he/she was the man/woman in charge.  That's just the way those people are.  They'll use organizations like the CFR, the TLC and the Bilderburgers as a way to work cooperative business deals and to attempt to influence governments to loosen trade restrictions and such.  But, if they are to be a part of any organization that has any real power, each and every one of them would demand to be in charge.  That's a personality trait that seems dominant in everyone who had reached that level.

I have seen deals that would have netted both sides hundreds of millions of dollars blow up, all because the big fish on both sides wouldn't give up control.  Asking people like that to work together on some great secret plan would be like putting a hundred fighting fish in one tank.  It'll never happen.

But, take a hundred well educated and very wealthy businessmen who know how money works, but who have never met and ask them, one-at-a-time, what laws they would like to see changed, although there would be some differences, you would find a remarkable consensus.  That's what you are seeing.  It's no conspiracy.  It's just that people with similar interests and incomes (at any income level), tend to belong to the same organizations (be it a bowling league or the CFR) and have similar political views.  Certainly, politics is filled with members of the CFR, TLC and Bilderburgers.  But, considering who are members of those groups, I would be surprised if there wasn't a significant number of them in politics.

Now, there are individuals, mostly those who have tasted some power, but are not those with the real power, who would like to wield their weight to create their own idea of a NWO.  They make bold and stupid statements, trying to show how smart they are.  But, those are generally people who have never created any jobs or built anything (i.e. UN and NATO diplomats), not the movers and shakers who make up the CFR, TLC and Bilderburgers.

There is certainly reason for concern.  But, including all that conspiracy stuff only weakens your argument and worse yet, detracts from the real issues.  I appreciate all of the info that you have provided.  But, there is way too much for most people to digest and the conspiracy stuff is like a light switch that turns off any interest that may have been beginning to grow in the uninformed reader.  It's sort of like not talking about politics or religion on the first date.  If you want to talk about that stuff, wait until your target audience expresses and interest in the basics.

Having said all of that, I should say that I firmly believe that the UN has become the worlds largest and best funded anti-American organization and that I also am aware that the stated reason for the existence of NATO (the USSR) no longer exists and for those reasons, the US should withdraw from both of those organizations.  As I said in an earlier post, I might even be tempted to vote for a person who voted for the Patriot Act, if he/she were to vote to get us out of the UN.  Note the strategic use of the word "might".

 

118 posted on 06/04/2003 9:13:35 PM PDT by Action-America (The next country to invade Europe has to keep France!)
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To: Action-America
I'll take your suggestions under advisement. I know it's a lot and that is why many just bookmark the thread or just save the links they like. I don't believe there are "too many" conspiracy sites in the list, maybe 10% and are there for informational purposes and doesn't mean the I believe or subscribe to all of what is said in the website or link.
119 posted on 06/04/2003 9:28:49 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?detach=1)
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