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To: TERMINATTOR
"What part of "the right of the people to keep and bear ARMS shall not be infringed" do they not understand? "

Sadly the line is not that distinct. The wording is "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The wording was intentionally left open to interpretation. Some view this as a statement that only military personel should have this right. Also under the other interpretation, the ammendment states nothing about ammunition. The government could legally ban ammunition, without infringing upon constitutional rights.
33 posted on 06/01/2003 10:51:36 PM PDT by Epasonic
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To: Epasonic
The wording was intentionally left open to interpretation.

A little background reading about the Founders and their attitude about an armed populace makes it very clear what they intended. Very little interpretation on our part is required. In their writings and statements, they have already gone trhough the trouble of interpreting it for us.

Some view this as a statement that only military personel should have this right.

Those people are wrong. The only way for someone to hold that opinion is out of political bias or historical ignorance. Unfortunately, our court system often adopts the former and our populace is often mired in the latter.

35 posted on 06/02/2003 4:50:58 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Epasonic
The wording was intentionally left open to interpretation.

Bull$hit.

Read This from the Second Amendment Sisters web site and come back and try to sell that liberal lie.


Eaker

45 posted on 06/03/2003 4:28:37 PM PDT by Eaker (84,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Epasonic
Sadly the line is not that distinct. The wording is "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The wording was intentionally left open to interpretation. Some view this as a statement that only military personel should have this right. Also under the other interpretation, the ammendment states nothing about ammunition. The government could legally ban ammunition, without infringing upon constitutional rights.

Absolutely nothing ambigous about "right of the people" nor "keep and bear arms", the rest is merely introdution and justification, not any limitation, if you follow standard English grammer rules. It does not say "right of the state", nor even "right of the militia". Ammunition is part of arms, just as knives and swords are. Or did you think arms==guns? Guns are included in "arms" but "arms" include much more. Like cannon for instance, and ships to mount them on.

The version you've quoted probably has too many commas, there really should be only the one between "state" and "the". Copies of the BoR sent to the states had only the one comma, as did the version sent to the "printer" to be printed, but somewhere along the line the extra commas were added. The 3 comma version was rarely seen, except in that printed version which still exists, until about the time some people wanted to make it subject to "interpretation"

Epasonic
Since Jun 1, 2003

Go away troll.

47 posted on 06/03/2003 4:42:30 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Epasonic
What part of "the people" don't you understand?

The moon is made of green cheese, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

That's your English lesson for today.
48 posted on 06/03/2003 4:46:21 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Epasonic
The Second Amendment is crystal clear. The only thing left open to interpertation is if, (a)you're a moron, (b)you're ignorant, (c)you have an (NWO?) disarmamnet agenda, or (d)all of the above.
50 posted on 06/09/2003 11:47:56 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: Epasonic
Man, you are RKBA ignorant! You repeat communist lies that are not supported in fact whatsoever.
64 posted on 06/09/2003 3:18:21 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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