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Laci's things in tug of war
The Modesto Bee ^ | May 31, 2003 | Garth Stapely and John Cote'

Posted on 05/31/2003 8:41:50 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: Velveeta
"What I've garnered from the various press reports was that the "defense" set that Tuesday date for Sharon to enter the home under strict guidelines set by the *defense*. Press reports indicated that the *defense* team would accompany Sharon and videotape her visit to the home and record everything she did and every item she touched or wanted removed from the home."

The articles say that there was an agreement upon the date by the parties. It does not state that the defense dictated the date, especially for some nefarious reason. I believe that there was an intent to document what was removed from the home. This is not surprising nor objectionable considering that there is a capital murder case involved. It is also not unusual. In other criminal and civil cases that I am aware of, there have been times that this has been done by both by the prosecution or complainants and the defense or respondants.

"...I this were me....this would have been an unacceptable scenario! How on earth could she have walked into her dead daughter's home with *defense* cameras recording her heartbreak?"

And if it were you and you objected then you or your attorney would be free to reject the agreement. There was no intent to document her grief, besides her grief has already been documented by the press with Sharon Rocha's permission and cooperation. As to the camera phobia, the press was clearly informed prior to the entry. The press was on site before the Rochas arrived and have described the trucks arrival at the Peterson residence. Clearly Geragos and the defense did not call the press. They knew nothing about the impending break in. It is doubtful that the attorneys for the Rochas called the press, they advised her earlier not to enter the home and by informing they press the would be in ethical breach. Besides they deny it. I for one, believe them. That leaves only the Rochas themselves.

"I'm quite sure that cameras were not present when the Peterson's entered. Why should the Rocha's be subjected to such a humiliating injustice?"

True, but then there would be no reason to believe that the Petersons bear any angst or rancor toward the defendant in this case. The same cannot be said for the Rocha family. They have openly displayed their feelings for the defendant, understandably so. However, the defense was doing what it is required to do by the Bar's Code of Ethics and the law---acting in the best interest of their client.

"The defense team is now stating that there was a "deal"...perhaps the defense said: this is the deal take it or leave it...and the Rocha's chose to leave it".

Actually the Rocha's attorneys are stating the there was a deal and complaining that Geragos and the defense withdrew the deal. I suppose you can say the "Rochas chose to leave it", but if that was their choice they should not have agreed to it in the first place. To unilaterally revoke it with no notice to the other party involved, is a breech of ehics, an affront to honest negotiation and smacks of a deliberate deception by the Rochas.

Sharon Rocha had an opportunity to revoke or "leave" the deal as you put it on the Greta program. She did not. Instead she deliberately chose not to mention the deal at all. She chose to claim that she was being denied any entry by Jackie Peterson, making Mrs. Peterson out to be callous, indifferent and vindictive. The record clearly shows that this was not true and Mrs. Rocha knew it.

661 posted on 06/01/2003 9:43:02 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: MaggieMay
"Al Clark(One of two of the Rocha's attorneys): "We thought we had it worked out with Geragos that Sharon could come in Laci's home next Tuesday". "He (Geragos)called...on Thursday and said he's not going to allow anyone in the house...."

And I've stated no different.

What you are ignoring is the Greta program appearance by Sharon Rocha on Wednesday night effectively denying that any access was being provided to her. That was the precipitant for the Geragos withdrawl of the deal Thursday morning.

662 posted on 06/01/2003 9:50:40 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
for later
663 posted on 06/01/2003 9:52:41 AM PDT by janette
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To: Rusty Roberts
You don't suppose Scott did the same with the jewelry as he did with the car, used it to buy something else? Thus the jeweler contacted the Rochas realizing what had transpired? Just a thought.

Again, what Jackie says the jewelry was doing there....don't mind me if I wait to hear a disintersted party confirm first before I believe her. Too many of her statements have been outright lies to take this at face value.

I think the jeweler just may have contacted the Rochas. Modesto isn't Los Angeles, and public sympathy for Laci's family is running pretty high. I'd be interested to learn when the jewelry was turned over to the jewelry store.

Jackie has a real problem with the truth. In fact she has character issues. Yeah, duuuuh...

664 posted on 06/01/2003 10:00:39 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Bella
From what I've heard, Scott is her only child w/ hubby P...both were previously married and each had 2-3 children w/ their first spouses...I have the same feeling as you re Jackie and she's been hitting the airwaves lately while the others basically hide..Something's definitely amiss..

Who is Janey married to? Besides Maw and Pa, she seems to be the only other Peterson speaking out. In some families there is a "code of silence". They know where the skeletons are buried, so to speak, but they stick together and keep their mouths shut. Quite common in dysfunctional families...

665 posted on 06/01/2003 10:05:19 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Canadian Outrage; Bella
One thing about it Bella is that it is very obvious that the Peterson clan were aiding and abetting Snott's attempt to take flight. He had his brother's ID, He had a passport application in a new name, he was driving a Mercedes that his parents bought for $3,600.00 (remember his truck had the listening and tracking device installed in it), he had drastically changed his appearance,AND he was very close to the Mexican border. That statement of Snotts's that his hair and goatee bleached out from swimming in a pool is patently, outrageously rediculous. I mean a stoooooopider lie could not have been told.!!

With everything else being talked about, I forgot all about this. Aiding and abetting, acomplices after the crime? I think maybe Jackie and Lee might want to think about dying their hair and making a run for the border??? Maybe that's why most of the family is laying low...

666 posted on 06/01/2003 10:16:33 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; MaggieMay
Peterson said her son has a request, too: He wants his wife's wedding ring, another diamond ring that he bought her, and a few diamonds given to Laci by her grandmother. Peterson said the rings and gems had been taken to a jeweler for crafting into one ring.

"We want those," Peterson said. She said the Rochas picked them up from the jeweler.

The Rocha family could not be reached for comment.

Above from post #84, this thread. I could not determine by whom nor when the rings were taken to the jeweler, but just saw a Fox reporter on Tony Snow's program, suggest that the rings were taken in by the Petersons at Scott's request. I took that to mean "Jackie/Lee". No hint as to when.

667 posted on 06/01/2003 10:23:54 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: daylate-dollarshort
I think the what Rocha's said on Greta's show was, they were upset because they were not allowed inside Laci's house.The said they had faxed the Peterson's and their attorney four times with no response.Daylate-dollarshort,I will see if I can find the actual transcript of the show,and post back later.
668 posted on 06/01/2003 10:25:47 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: cherry
Laci had good taste...except in men...

don't we wish we could have warned her ...

She probably wouldn't have listened : (

669 posted on 06/01/2003 10:29:03 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Sandylapper; TheSpottedOwl
Interesting post Sandy. I will continue to dig around,to see if I can come up with anything more.
670 posted on 06/01/2003 10:29:04 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: daylate-dollarshort; MaggieMay; Velveeta
Scott Peterson's parents and his attorney have prevented his wife's family from entering the couple's Covena Avenue home and retrieving personal items, according to the statement from attorneys Adam J. Stewart and Albert G. Clark.
The statement came with a 22-point list of items that family members want, including Laci's diplomas and journals, and a watering can that says "Laci's Garden." But family members said that being inside the home that Laci decorated and lived in was more important than retrieving personal items.
According to the statement, lead defense attorney Mark Geragos wrote a letter in response to the request for access. The Laci Peterson family attorneys, in their statement, say that Geragos said it would be "unthinkable to allow anything to be moved or disposed of" until his team had completed its investigation.

This is when the Rochas went on Greta. Bowing to pressure from that appearance Geragos tosses them a bone for the next Tuesday.

Defense lawyer Mark Geragos says he has worked out an agreement to let Laci Peterson's family visit the house and remove her journals, a food processor and a watering can that said "Laci's Garden."

So Geragos tells Clark the Rochas can go in the following Tuesday, failing to mention that they will only be allowed to take three items. Then Clark hears, possibly through the media, about the reduction in the number of items that they will be allowed to take. An argument ensues between the attorneys on Thursday about the "agreement".

Further agitating the situation is the defense leaking of the autopsy. Geragos makes his "wanting war" statement and cancels his token agreement with the Rocha's attorney.

Sharon Rocha, having access to the home and no order restraining her from doing so, decides to retrieve certain items already outlined in the previous 22 point list. Geragos has the list. And Sharon had a key.

The Rochas played it straight up. It was Geragos who was playing games. IMO...

671 posted on 06/01/2003 10:37:56 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Janey is Joe Peterson's wife.
672 posted on 06/01/2003 10:39:49 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: MaggieMay
You don't have to look for the transcript. Accepting what you say proves my point.

"The[y] said they had faxed the Peterson's and their attorney four times with no response."

The night Sharon Rocha was on Greta, she knew that a deal had been made to allow her to enter the Peterson home. How can she say that they were upset that they were not allowed inside Laci's house and in the same breath say that they have tried repeatedly to contact the Peterson's and their attorney with no response?

The agreement was infact in place at the very moment she was making these claims and had been prior to her appearance. She was a participant in the negotiations that resulted in the agreement. She knew an agreement to enter Laci's home had already been made. A better example of a disengenuous statement would be hard to find.

The morning following her appearance on Greta, Rocha's own attorney says that she was upset that Gergaros had withdrawn the defense's agreement that very morning.

673 posted on 06/01/2003 10:46:56 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: All
"But family members said that being inside the home that Laci decorated and lived in was more important than retrieving personal items."

Just as a point of interest, it seems to me that this sentiment got lost somewhere along the way.

674 posted on 06/01/2003 11:01:41 AM PDT by freedox
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To: RGSpincich
With all due respect, your post is nonsense.

That there was an agreeement is not even a question. Rocha's own attorneys say so. They also say that Gergaros backed out of the agreement the day after Rochas appearance on Gretas show.

Your statement that Gergaros "failed to mention that they will only be allowed to take three items" is unadulterated garbage. Rochas attorneys have stated that Sharon Rocha had originally submitted a list of 22 items that she would like from the home. During the negotiations to arrive at the agreement, this list was reduced by Sharon Rocha to 11 items.

You must be living in a cave or only get your news from these threads.

675 posted on 06/01/2003 11:02:02 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: freedox
You are quite correct.

Skeptic that I am, and in hind-sight, I have come to believe that his was a tatical statement to gather support.
676 posted on 06/01/2003 11:06:36 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
I really should do a better job proof reading.
677 posted on 06/01/2003 11:08:58 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: daylate-dollarshort; clouda
Clouda, do you have the Wednesday night transcript of Greta's show,On The Record". This is the program where the Rocha's discussed access to Laci and Scott's house.

Daylate-dollarshort,I am not sure if perhaps,Sharon was referring to the family, had attempted to get the Peterson's and their attorney by fax to agree to entry,with no response.Then frustrated when their own efforts failed,they hired Clark and Steward to negotiate with the Peterson's and their attorney entry into the home. I just do not remember the entire converstion and the context of how Sharon brought up the subject of the fax.
678 posted on 06/01/2003 11:24:23 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
We could start hearing more about the rings on TV as early as tonight or tomorrow. The Fox reporter mentioned that it was a topic of high interest. Not exact words....
679 posted on 06/01/2003 11:25:00 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: daylate-dollarshort
That there was an agreeement is not even a question. Rocha's own attorneys say so.

It was a token agreement that didn't last a day. Geragos canceled it. Show me where anything exists that reflects an agreement was made prior to the Greta show. Don't bother with the fax/email thing, that was from Sharon with no response from the defense. No response means just that . How you comprehend that to mean that they were negotiating is ludicrous.

Rochas attorneys have stated that Sharon Rocha had originally submitted a list of 22 items that she would like from the home.

Yeah I said that and Geragos said NO! That's a matter of record.

Your statement that Gergaros "failed to mention that they will only be allowed to take three items" is unadulterated garbage.

Geragos made the statement regarding the three items not me.

You must be living in a cave or only get your news from these threads.

I'll take my cave over your vacuum anyday.

680 posted on 06/01/2003 11:31:33 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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