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To: tpaine
Well, you're wrong Paine. Roe v Wade opened the door for and Doe v Bolton ripped it off it's hinges so that now you can kill'em on the way out.

In other words 5 judges in black robes decided that killing babies was an unalienable right not to be legislated against by the states.

And the real irony here is that there are a good many libertarians and conservatives who have no problem with it.

908 posted on 06/01/2003 12:11:02 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
From what I've read, -- the USSC established that 'cut off' point as being "viability"..

-- Prior to that time [defined as roughly the end of the second trimester] a state cannot prosecute abortion as murder.
After the first trimester, - abortion can be severely 'reguated' by the state, but not absolutely prohibited as a crime. - After viability, proscute as murder, and let a jury decide..
But in no case is abortion to be criminalized in the first trimester.

This is the constitutional way the matter rests as of now, to my knowledge. NO one on any side of the issue has come up with a better method of resolving the dilemma. Sure a lot of shouting going on though..
As has been remarked here, much of the more fanatical only hurts the agenda of those most zealous.. -905-

Well, you're wrong Paine. Roe v Wade opened the door for and Doe v Bolton ripped it off it's hinges so that now you can kill'em on the way out.

That is simply untrue. Each state has the power to regulate second trimester abortion or to try those of the 3rd as murder. -- They lack the political will to do so.

In other words 5 judges in black robes decided that killing babies was an unalienable right not to be legislated against by the states.

Shout that as loud as you like.. It does not change the constitutional facts of the matter.

And the real irony here is that there are a good many libertarians and conservatives who have no problem with it.

Many do have problems with it, but want them resolved within the rule of law, in a free republic.

The irony is in the shouts for state prohibitions on individual rights. - These are not the tactics of constitutional conservatives.

920 posted on 06/01/2003 12:37:46 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: jwalsh07
Yeah sad isn't it?
952 posted on 06/01/2003 6:18:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (And they tried to warn me of my evil ways, But I couldn't hear what they had to say)
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