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Nobody disagrees that Saddam once had WMDs....but a few measley labs are pretty pathetic when compared to the hysterical claims that New York was about go up in smoke if we didn't go to war. BTW, I opposed the war but thought that he did have WMDs. Perhaps I was too gullible in believing Rumsfeld. Live and learn.

Nobody disagrees that Saddam once had WMDs....but a few measly labs are pretty pathetic when compared to the hysterical claims that New York was about go up in smoke if we didn't go to war. BTW, I opposed the war but thought that he did have WMDs. Perhaps I was too gullible in believing Rumsfeld. Live and learn.

I think that sums up our disagrement, as well as that other posters seem to have with your position. It's really one of GWBs policy of preemption.

Sadaams possession of WMDs, coupled with his hostility towards America and his enabling relationships with terrorist groups targeting Americans is enough justification for me to support action, in hopes of averting an attack, and minimizing the cost in lives. I’d guess you'd for incontrovertible proof of an imminent threat, or an accomplished attack, balanced against the possibility that Sadaam’s threat to the US was benign.

That disagreement aside, the intelligence issue is one that needs to be addressed, currently I’d give it a C- at best.

Funny everybody is an intelligence expert on here.

So, does North Korea have nukes? Have you seen them? Have they used them? Did Hussein use chem/bio? Did Hussein finance terrorism? Did Hussein allow terrorist training camps be setup in Iraq?

Does Iran have nukes? How about chem/bio? Ever seen them? Does Iran finance terrorists? Has Al-Queda been discovered in Iran?

What covers supporting "national defense"? An invasion force at the border? Forward deployed troops as a tripwire? Or do we just wait till 3,000 or 3,000,000 Americans are killed by weapons YOU are not sure they have or will use?

".but a few measley labs are pretty pathetic when compared to the hysterical claims that New York was about go up in smoke if we didn't go to war."

Do you live in NY? Were you there on 9/11? Wonder how you might be reacting if your city was hit by a dirty bomb, that of course could never be traced to a 'country', cause terrorists did it. And of course Saddam had nothing to do with terrorism? I think you need to take a deep breath and get off the kick about not finding WMDs YET.

Besides, if we do find the WMDs that you will even admit ARE WMDs, you'll just find another reason to tell us all the war was unjust, even after the 17 reolutions that were not comlied with. *shrug*

>>>Nobody disagrees that Saddam once had WMDs....but a few measley labs are pretty pathetic ...

If I'm not mistaken, US forces have examined less then one-third of the total sites that are known to exist in Iraq, that could possibly contain evidence of the past production of weapons of mass destruction. There are also new teams of investigators being sent to Iraq by the US govt to assist in completing this exhaustive process.

Before you condemn Bush and company, lets see what turns up over the next 5-10 months. Let the experts complete the job.