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To: tdadams
When you ask why should we normalize homosexuality, what do you envision, some sort of formal proclamation?

Exactly. Things like removing support from organizations that don't allow homoerotic leaders. Creating homoerotic unions or allowing homoerotic "marriages." Mandating curricula about people with the homoerotic illness in schools. Making it a hate crime to tell somoene they can't spend time with your child because of their "sexual orientation." Changing the definition of psychiatry so that psychiatrists no longer have to treat this illness.

When it comes to laws, there are a bunch being written to persecute those who accept homoerotic behavior as a perversion than those who suffer from it. This, in itself, is a part of the disease. You brought up gun owners earlier, didn't you? Do you see gun owners trying to make it a crime to dislike guns or people who use them?

They are sick and any formal declaration made at any level, personal or public policy, should be based on their illness, not on accepting or "tolerating" them.

And, like it or not, your gentle effort to "live and let live" has helped to create the environment where their formal declarations become law. There is no middle ground in this battle, much as you would like there to be.

Shalom.

332 posted on 06/11/2003 11:09:14 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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Well said
335 posted on 06/11/2003 12:09:49 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: ArGee
And, like it or not, your gentle effort to "live and let live" has helped to create the environment where their formal declarations become law.

...You know ArGgee, back in the 70's & 80's I worked in the Hotel Industry as a banquet mng. and about a third of our staff was openly gay. They were hard working when they were at work,(they called in sick often), acommadating and respectful of their position, which made it easy to say live and let live.

When my children became teenagers they began working at the hotel part-time which made it nice because as a single mother with no support I had to work many hours to support them.

It was then that I noticed the male gay waiters different attitude. While they we nice to both children, they were too nice to my son. Silently I watched, and when they then wanted to hang around him when he wasn't at the hotel and I was, I knew I had to sit down with my children and have a talk.

I won't go into detail of what I learned, but I wasn't happy with some of the events that took place (no physical contact yet, and it was clear my son wasn't impressed, I was lucky.

I insisted he get another job, but, shortly after that incident I noticed that my daughter was constantly asking me to sign an excuse to miss swimming class at school.

After about the third or fourth week in a row, I thought what is this childs problem, so I asked her. Guess what, the female swimming coaches were standing in the showers while the girls showered.

Her quote exactly " It's scarey Mom, they watch the whole process, undressing, showering and redressing", then added, "I can take the winking in the hall as I pass by, but not them staring at me while I am naked.

Live and let live, not anymore, more like give them an inch, and they take a mile. Don't tell me they are not after children, they were after my children and that was twenty years ago.

355 posted on 06/11/2003 3:20:59 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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