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God kept out of EU constitution
WorldNetDaily.Com ^ | Posted: May 29, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern | © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 05/29/2003 9:05:46 PM PDT by Bobby777

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To: KittyKares
Mostly copy and paste.
61 posted on 05/30/2003 5:26:32 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort
"It's all cut and paste."

Yeah I figured it was all cut and past but I wanted to know how you had put it together. It is a great compilation.

Thanks for the info.

62 posted on 05/30/2003 6:16:59 AM PDT by Kerberos (Ah yes the liberal democrats, united as ever in opportunism and error. Tony Blair 3/18/03)
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To: Bobby777
"France leads charge to pander to Islamic immigrant populations "

France will be "toast" in a few more years! If their Muslim population doesn't cause its downfall, other members of the EU, who will be sick and tired of France's politics and its attempts to "lead" Europe (ha! talk about an oxymoron), will finally take steps to limit its control.
63 posted on 05/30/2003 6:30:03 AM PDT by Spottys Spurs
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To: Kerberos
Like I said, search for Gods, Deities, Pantheons, etc. and copy the names you want into Notepad or Word, etc, and format it any way you want. It didn't take me long to do it. For example: This site has several links to names of deities around the world.
64 posted on 05/30/2003 6:35:09 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Bobby777
God help them.
65 posted on 05/30/2003 7:54:43 PM PDT by yonif
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To: liberalnot
>>and, don't forget that i'm a tree worshipper and want my tree gods in there! <<

Don't forget Gozer!

66 posted on 05/30/2003 7:58:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Consort
You should have hand-typed them all; you might have ended up in another dimension with no world strife ;-)
67 posted on 05/31/2003 11:31:29 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: patriciaruth
>> I don't get what you all have against metric.

It may be that some of us view weights and measures as we do the English language. It's part of our culture, and we don't want the government trying to change that.


68 posted on 05/31/2003 11:41:04 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Tagline error. Press ALT-F4 to continue.)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
part of our culture

Pounds and shillings and quids were part of our culture in 1788, but we abandoned them for our own decimal based (metric) monetary system of dimes and dollars.

Quarts/gallons and pecks/bushels and acres/rods and feet/yards are insane to figure out the math. And they are English units of measure based on things like the length of King Henry's foot, whereas many people in America have no English cultural/ethnic background or come from backgrounds like mine where we kissed off the British crown in 1776 and joined the militia.

Saying it's cultural is not an argument that cuts it with me. Saying it would be expensive in a time of economic challenge is a valid argument, however.

69 posted on 06/01/2003 12:29:16 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
>> many people in America have no English cultural/ethnic background

True, many don't, but I think most did, or at least were dominant at the time of the Declaration of Independence and the designing of our new government. The ancestors on my father's and mother's side both came to America about 100 years before the landing of the Mayflower, one side from Sussex and the other from Scotland.

The country's legal system, and that of every state save one, is based on English common law. I believe the system of weights and measures is part of that. That our monetary units were set up as base 10 is probably a blessing, but it's a single exception to what's otherwise been followed here for some 500 years.

>> Quarts/gallons and pecks/bushels and acres/rods and feet/yards are insane to figure out the math.

Doesn't bother me at all. I can work with both systems with equal ease, but I am the one people come to in my office to do their English/metric conversions - the others would just as soon deal with feet and tons.

>> ...or come from backgrounds like mine where we kissed off the British crown in 1776 and joined the militia.

I don't think our independence was fueled by ill regard for the British system, so much as it was a revolt against the Monarch himself. Indeed, the rights that we recognized as being inalienable then were not much different from those Brits had enjoyed for some 500 years prior. The colonists' beef was that King George had ceased to recognise them as being applicable to the settlers here. The only things that were changed much at all were only changed after much debate - and this includes the matter of whether or not we would have a king and queen. I think they went the right way on the nobility question, but it was not assured at the outset (and we had a couple of clans in the last century who seemed to have been trying to change even that - thankfully one of them is nearly extinct, but we still need to be vigilant about the other).

Dave in Eugene
70 posted on 06/01/2003 8:35:47 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Tagline error. Press ALT-F4 to continue.)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
The ancestors on my father's and mother's side both came to America about 100 years before the landing of the Mayflower, one side from Sussex and the other from Scotland.

Is this a typo?

71 posted on 06/01/2003 10:05:08 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Bobby777
Hey, they actually got something right. We don't have God in our constitution either and it works for us.
72 posted on 06/01/2003 10:19:32 PM PDT by MattAMiller (Iraq was liberated in my name, how about yours?)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Wow, those are possibly the STUPIDEST comic characters I have ever seen in my life. Who is it that publishes that garbage? Inquiring minds want to know.

I was about to say that Captain America would kick his butt in a heartbeat, but Captain America's become so sissified and PC lately that he'd probably hold hands with Captain Euro and sing kumbaya.

Oh, and Europa and her "Gaia Theory". What the hell's the Gaia Theory?
73 posted on 06/01/2003 10:22:20 PM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in '08.)
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To: Sparta
"Why didn't the EU just copy Communist Manifesto for their constitution? It would've saved all the hard work spent on this document and said virtually the same thing."

Heh!

74 posted on 06/01/2003 10:23:52 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: MattAMiller
. We don't have God in our constitution either and it works for us.

true. but as a point of clarification He is mentioned twice in the Declaration of Independence as "Creator" and "Nature's God" IIRC ...
75 posted on 06/02/2003 1:43:24 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
The Euros are keeping that space blank and reserved for Allah when the Muzzies take over Europe.
76 posted on 06/02/2003 2:55:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
that may just be the case ... given the demographic shift in progress ...
77 posted on 06/02/2003 3:05:47 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: patriciaruth
>> Is this a typo?

Well, yes and no. I had intended to make reference to the time of the Declaration of Independence, but the lifetimes that spanned the turn of the 16th/17th centuries got me thinking Mayflower. I have some references to dates and places that were written by family menbers in the past 50 years, but the only thing that's verifiable is an arrival in New Haven, CT in 1639, of a group of English Puritans, one of whom was an ancestor, who then bought the land that became the town of Guilford. It is said that the other line from which I descend (my dad's side) arrived among the Quakers into MA circa 1650. There's not much written that actually ties my family to this group of immigrants. It seems the Quakers were not highly regarded by the Puritans. The debate then was whether to have them hanged, or to "be stripped naked from the middle upwards, and tied to a cart's tail and whipped through the town". Whatever else happened to them, their books and historical documents were confiscated and burned.

Dave in Eugene
78 posted on 06/02/2003 7:54:55 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Tagline error. Press ALT-F4 to continue.)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
As I recall the Mayflower carried the first settlers to the future United States that have descendants here, as the settlers in the earlier Virginia colony were all wiped out.

Thus your ancestors couldn't have arrived 100 years before the Mayflower, unless they were just exploring and then went back to England. Of course, they could have come 100 years before the Declaration of Independence.

My father used to do genealogy research and had a large library. When I moved him and mother into a retirement complex, I gave most of his library and research to the Mormons. It was quite a treasure trove.

79 posted on 06/03/2003 12:28:07 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
>> ...to the Mormons

Funny, we are discussing connections with early settlers, who ostensibly came here to avoid religious persecution, and I have connections to the Quakers and you seem to have Mormon history (or was that material donated to them just for their interest in geneology?).

In my father's bloodline, he was the last observing Quaker, and his sister became more of a Unitarian. His sister's offspring ignore religion altogether, and I am a believer who does not participate in any religious organization. The last church I went to was a Southern Baptist congregation, and when the pastor said I should continue attending regularly or I would probably go to hell...


80 posted on 06/03/2003 6:49:12 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Tagline error. Press ALT-F4 to continue.)
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