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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
Sorry, but I disagree. All I had to do was take a stupid class (which was actually waived for me), and I get my permit forever.

My friends in law enforcement have to qualify on the range every three to six months. They are eminently more qualified, and their badge and cop card (cops have to fulfill certain continuing ed requirements and they get a card) are more than enough to qualify them to carry.

I know many cops who have carried regularly in other states, and even those who were (and still are) encouraged to carry on the commuter train service into New York city, which is unbelieveably illegal.

Come to think of it, the Metro North Police are a branch of the NY State Police who have jurisdiction on Metro North property in Connecticut. I wonder if they have carry permits. Postal inspectors? FBI agents in-state? Secret Service? ATF? All of the other alphabet soup agencies?

86 posted on 05/29/2003 7:46:27 PM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato
My friends in law enforcement have to qualify on the range every three to six months. They are eminently more qualified, and their badge and cop card (cops have to fulfill certain continuing ed requirements and they get a card) are more than enough to qualify them to carry.

Surely you jest.

How many rounds were fired at Diallo without any hits?

And what about that SWAT team (aren't they supposed to be the *most* highly qualified?) that fired over three hundred rounds in a standoff situation, again with no hits?

I burn more rounds at the range every month than most cops do in a year.

And if you want to get practical experience in self-defense situations, I'd suggest that you check out the International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA).

They have rankings, competitions, and training your muscle memory in stressful situations could very likely make the difference between survival and non-survival in a self-defense situation.

87 posted on 05/30/2003 7:35:19 AM PDT by George Smiley (Is it still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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To: ModernDayCato
>> Sorry, but I disagree. All I had to do was take a stupid class (which was actually waived for me), and I get my permit forever.

The situation is different here. There aren't any "forever" permits except for cops, who don't really have to demonstrate anything other than having been employed as a cop. We regular subjects have to take a class (I have taken a qualified class and there isn't much to it, like you say), and have to pay money to the government for the original and renewal every five years. That is the very defenition of infringement of a right.

Maybe I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, we have the shall issue status and few restrictions on places one may carry, but we are talking about something that is a right and to have any fees and restrictions at all placed on it implies something that is offensive to me. Haven't been to the Cato site lately but I bet they think so too.

Dave in Eugene
90 posted on 05/30/2003 8:47:04 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Tagline error. Press ALT-F4 to continue.)
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