We've come full circle on that, so, in accordance with your wishes let's just skip playing that game again.
The treatment of police brutality in the United States and in Milosevic's Serbia are two entirely different matters, and attempting to equate one with the other simply gets back to your issue with reality, Inquest - you make sweeping generalizations and analogies which don't hold up under close scrutiny - take for example your claim that we inflamed the ethnic rivalries in Croatia and Bosnia: Did we take over the local TV stations and put them on their 24 hour a day fearmongering programming schedules in the months leading up to open warfare in both states? Did our recognition of those states precede the ethnic slaughter in them?
No on both accounts. Again, an attempt to blame outsiders for internal Yugoslav idiocy bites the dust.
Quite simply, Inquest, you're pretty much wrong in everything you're saying on this thread, and that's no mean accomplishment.
As to Macedonia, I suggest you acquaint yourself with the activities of one Ljube Boskovski - he'll be the one giving the lie to your last statement.
Of course, you are quite insipid in your retorts when doused with Reality Information, ehh? Looky that, Mr Gresham backs down on my facts upon my trip to YU...and the winner is?...........Serbia, you must look at it long-term. History proves that Serbs are victorious, but then again. It depends on your definition of history which is opinionated, not factual.
Well, you were the one who brought it up, so what's that say about you?
In any case, you still haven't explained, in concrete terms, why the Serbs aren't fit to rule their own country, given that Slobo's out of power, and his party along with him, and that Serbia is, by all indications in the press, being responsibly governed. All you've given me is a bunch of vague hot air on that subject.
Did we take over the local TV stations and put them on their 24 hour a day fearmongering programming schedules in the months leading up to open warfare in both states? Did our recognition of those states precede the ethnic slaughter in them?
You say I have a problem with reality. It seems much more accurate to say that you have a problem with reading. Example: Did I say that nothing bad happened over there before we granted recognition? I believe I said that recognition - both by us and by Western European governments - made matters considerably worse than they otherwise would have been. It certainly didn't help any.
Regarding your first question, you'd do well to remember that when you make a specific point, you should have some way of tying it in to your larger point. Namely, how does this relate to the "lesson learned and applied" in Macedonia? Was the kind of fearmongering you describe going on anywhere but on the Albanian side?
As to Macedonia, I suggest you acquaint yourself with the activities of one Ljube Boskovski - he'll be the one giving the lie to your last statement.
Just finished doing a Google search on him. Nothing that gives me any idea what you're talking about. Which is kind of bizarre given that he apparently forms the whole justification of our telling the Macedonians how to run their country.