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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Smith is a program, who probably does not know about the 6 (7)previous Matrixes anymore than Neo.
124 posted on 05/19/2003 1:24:11 PM PDT by brownie (Reductio Ad Absurdum, or something like that . . .)
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To: brownie
Well, Reloaded continues the Marxism-as-truth bit that the original stated, although without the geek appeal of the first. As such, it comes across a bit flat and uninteresting. Uninteresting? How can you say that? If it was just the spreading of lies :) that was a problem, you could take me to task for it -- but that's not the only thing. The fight scenes are long. Way too long. The philosophy scenes are also too long, and the movie consists of simply alternating these discrete scenes like a bad music video. The characters are still cardboard cut-outs, and the promise of love that the first alluded to is now revealed to be nothing more than base sexual copulation, and even that is boring -- a 10 minute scene of orgiastic dancing and nude sex not only makes the point but drives it so far into your skull you'll feel like you've been stabbed with an icepick.

The matrix is still a stand-in for "the world as we know it" with only the elite (Marxists) woken up by being unhooked as if from an IV. (Remember -- religion is the opiate of the masses, and on a deeper level, reality is the opiate of the masses. Only those who have undergone a political transformation can see the truth.) Reloaded makes this point crystal-clear when the characters re-enter the matrix, the first things they see are pictures of Bhudda and Jesus. The characters still curse up a storm, with enough GD's to offend any theists in the crowd. (The irony of swearing by something you don't believe in seems to escape the film's creators). Rage Against the Machine, a notorious left-wing rapcore band, ends this movie as the first.

If you're looking for action, this movie has it. If you're looking for deep thought, or a polished story, this ain't it. It's rated "R" for the language, violence and the sex / dancing scene. My .02? Wait 'til it hits the dollar theatre.


126 posted on 05/19/2003 1:46:54 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Proud Christo-het Supremacist!)
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To: brownie
I'm not sure about that.

After the second viewing, it's easier to pick out villan dialog that seem to indicate that 'everyone else' (mainframe/matrix/program-wise) is in on the whole versioning aspect of Neo.

For instance, the frenchman mentioned that Neo's previous versions weren't as troublesome as the current version.

Also, the dialog Smith gives about Neo not knowing his purpose gives the appearance of Smith knowing what Neo doesn't.
155 posted on 05/23/2003 9:40:58 AM PDT by bobwoodard
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