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To: WhiskeyPapa
Do you honestly believe that all Southernors are Nazi like if they don't wish to change history or names of historical land marks or change the names of our schools and buildings just because you think that's the way suppose to be?
82 posted on 05/13/2003 7:23:18 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: HELLRAISER II
Do you honestly believe that all Southernors are Nazi like if they don't wish to change history or names of historical land marks or change the names of our schools and buildings just because you think that's the way suppose to be?

The neo-confederate or "southern" heritage movement is nazi-like in its use of propaganda. Their whole canto is based on lies, half truths and easily acceptable buzz phrases like "Heritage, not hate." This is Newspeak worthy of the best "1984" propagandist. The -heritage- WAS hate.

Walt

90 posted on 05/13/2003 7:27:48 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: HELLRAISER II
Some people are politically correct freaks. Same kind of people whom our founding fathers spat upon.
94 posted on 05/13/2003 7:32:21 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: HELLRAISER II
Do you honestly believe that all Southernors are Nazi like if they don't wish to change history or names of historical land marks or change the names of our schools and buildings just because you think that's the way suppose to be?

Me?

"That the general satisfaction with the surrender of Lee should beget a kind feeling for the rebel General is not unnatural. But it is a great folly to invest him with any romance. Robert E. Lee may be an honest man, as doubtless many of the rebels were, but beyond that he has no claim of any kind whatever upon the regard of the American people.

His story is very briefly told. Educated an army officer, he acknowledged the doctrine of State sovereignty, and, honestly holding it, he followed his State when she seceded. Now even if a man believed that his State had a right to secede at her pleasure, if he thought the occasion insufficient, as Lee confessed he did, he would silently acquiesce, and no more. But if the occasion were infamous, if the object of the exercise of State sovereignty at such enormous peril to the lives and happiness of his fellow-citizens were nothing but the perpetuity of human slavery, a noble and generous man would have protested with all his heart. Robert E. Lee offered his sword.

From that moment he has been an active soldier. His military skill has been much overrated. Stonewall Jackson, his Lieutenant, achieved his most famous successes, and Lee's two aggressive campaigns were ignominious failures. No man can be held guilty of a want of genius. But will those who are so eager in extolling General Lee inform us why this Christian hero had not a word to say in regard to the atrocious treatment of our prisoners in rebel hands, especially at Belle Isle, under his eyes? Will the flatterers of this Virginian gentleman explain why his reports of operations in the field were so unfair and deceptive? Will the friends of this simple-hearted soldier say why he tried a trick of words in his final correspondence with General Grant?

There is no act known to us during his long career as a rebel in arms which should favorably signalize Robert E. Lee among hundreds of his fellow-rebels. Why does not Johnston, or Ewell, or Longstreet, or Hill deserve the same praise? What excellence of character or excuse for conduct has he which they had not? Do those who speak so softly of his crimes feel as gently about Jefferson Davis? Yet Davis at least heartily believed in his cause, and it was Lee, at the head of the army, who made Davis's crime so prolonged and bloody.

We have no emotion of vengeance against General Lee. We would not hang him -- not because he has not deserved hanging, but from motives of state policy. Neither are we inaccessible to admiration for a foe. Major André we can pity, but General Arnold we despise. Robert E. Lee was an American citizen educated by his country, who, from a mistaken sense of duty, deserted his flag. Had his story ended there it would have been sorrowful. But he drew his sword against that flag not because of any oppression or outrage, but because by peaceful and lawful means it bade fair to become the symbol of justice and equal rights; and he drew it, thank God! in vain. There his story ends, and it is infamous."

--HARPER'S WEEKLY. A JOURNAL OF CIVILIZATION. / Volume IX, Issue 434

Lee was a bum, and not just because I say so.

Walt

96 posted on 05/13/2003 7:35:19 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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