GOP Chairman Racicot Defends Meeting with ‘Gay’ Pressure Group [Alienating the GOP base]

www.cwfa.org ^ | Robert Knight

[RockBassCreek]

Your comments are valid. I'm trying to balance my views on job discrimination and life discrimination with my views on politics, voting, and political parties. It's really difficult to do.

When people group together, then they've done so because of some focus that's important to them. To the extent that Log Cabin Republicans are grouped together to prevent job/life discrimination, then I'm inclined to live and let live. To the extent that they wish to advocate homosexuality in any form, then I disagree with them.

Because I think any American should be granted a right to vote, to peaceably assemble, to not be deprived of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without due process, then I think it applies as well to homosexuals.

I think it's sad that their behavior is killing them. I wish they'd change. But I can't make a logical leap from there to denying them their political rights.

Maybe there's a good reason to begin a Christian Conservative Party.

[eastsider]

Maybe there's a good reason to begin a Christian Conservative Party.

Isn't that basically what the Right to Life Party is all about?

[BibChr]

Wel, but who's denying them their rights? Look two scenarios.

First scenario: A guy comes, wants to work with the GOP, wants to distribute pamphlets, whatever. Oh, and he's homosexual, he doesn't mention.

No problem.

Second scenario: guy forms group of [enter sexual deviancy here], that is THE ONE DEFINING FACTOR of the group, and wants recognition. To recognize is to validate.

Problem.

Further, do you think people have the right to hire or not hire who they want? I do. To me, that's Freedom 101, right of association. I think if someone doesn't want to hire homely, bald guys with glasses (me), he has that right. His loss, his right. I think he also has a right not to hire homosexuals.

Or would you require Christian bookstores and churches to hire homosexuals?

More grist for the mill.

Dan

[eastsider]

I told Mr. Racicot that pro-family Americans viewed the homosexual activist agenda as a grave threat for two reasons: First, homosexuality hurts those who practice it.... health risks ... sexually transmitted diseases specific to homosexual conduct ...

The phrase "sexually transmitted diseases specific to homosexual conduct" really caught my attention, but without supporting evidence, it seems to be a reach. It's common sense that a greater incidence of STD's accompanies a greater incidence of promiscuity, but I have never heard of an STD that specifically targets same-sex promiscuity.

[BibChr]

Ma'am, if you're a poor reader or unfamiliar with logical progressions, that isn't my issue.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to affirm (as you correctely quoted, before going off on your own tangent) the PARALLEL between one group wanting acceptance of its immoral, destructive, sexual deviation with the other group who wants acceptance of its immoral, destructive, sexual deviation.

Dan

[RockBassCreek]

Private individuals and private associations have the right to hire and fire according to their own rules. However, individuals fired have the right to sue anyone who violates contractual agreements with them, whether written or implied.

If I'm a church and I hire someone, then I'm free to fire them according to my doctrinal/conscientious dictates. But, if I've signed a written contract with them, then I'm also bound by that contract. People have that expectation of a church, because churches are know to have specific beliefs and restrictions.

However, if I'm an individual or private business, and I simply hire someone with no in-brief about requirements, then it's not unreasonable for someone to expect fair treatment from me. They should have redress for arbitrary firings. It would be arbitrary for me to bring up unspoken requirements or matters of conscience after the fact.

That employer should owe something like the cost of seeking new employment and the difference between unemployment and the old salary.

I don't think there should be punitive damages for such things. The bottom line is, if there are standards of employment, then they should be above board. Preferably, they should be written. Then if a person signs them knowing their in violation they have only themselves to blame. Likewise, it serves as a red flag for some folks not to work with certain employers.

Race should be handled differently than sexual preference because a person's race is entirely out of their control. I support government laws prohibiting racial discrimination.

[montag813]

Racicot is an S.O.B. First he refused to run against Max Baucus, against whom he would have won a large victory and a desperately needed extra Senate seat for the GOP. Then he had to go coddle to the homos. I hope Bush is putting him as a "special adviser" to the 2004 campaign as a demotion. This guy is a real pussy.

[ninenot]

Is Racicot as stupid as he wants us to believe??

If so, what in tarnation is he doing at RNC Chair???

[Polycarp]

STD that specifically targets same-sex promiscuity.

There are specific types/anatomic locations of STDs that, though not wholly unknown among promiscuous heterosexual individuals, nonetheless are considered the result of homosexual behavior, including Amoebic bowel disease, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, Anal warts, herpes of the throat, urethritis from Chlamidia spp., mycoplasma spp.,Ureaplasma urealyticum and Trichomonas spp., and Hepatitis B.

[mabelkitty]

I am uncomfortable.

Why is this article ignoring the fact that Racicot is also meeting with ex-homosexuals?

What is the agenda here? This concerns me that they are not being honest.

[mabelkitty]

Homosexuals are giving more money to the RNC.

Until these family groups start writing checks and contribute to the party other than making demands because they want to, they won't have a leg to stand on.

It goes both ways. Racicot, as much as I don't like him, has a job to do.

[Polycarp]

hyper-paranoid, self-appointed guardians of the troglodyte wing of the Republican Party

I'd rather wear this ad hominem label than the label "libertarian" any day. Besides, I take scorn from you as a sincere compliment.

[eastsider]

EEEEEUUUUWWWWWWW ... nasty. Sorry I asked. : (

[TLBSHOW]

BUMP

[Polycarp]

Why is this article ignoring the fact that Racicot is also meeting with ex-homosexuals?

Huh? This article indicates he has NOT met with the ex-homosexuals.

Racicot was asked if he would meet with a group of former homosexuals hosted by Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays. He said, “Of course.”

IF YOU KNOW OTHERWISE, PLEASE POST A LINK.

[Polycarp]

Until these family groups start writing checks and contribute to the party other than making demands because they want to, they won't have a leg to stand on.

You idiot. Conservatives ARE the base, the bread and butter, and the pocketbook, of the GOP.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200305\POL20030508a.html

[SoCar]

I'm with Racicot too! I do not like Bauer. Frankly, I welcome the Log Cabin Republicans. Obviously, their personal homosexual agenda takes a back sest to other more important things for this country. Good for them. Bauer can go flip some pancakes and hang out with his buddy McInsane.

[Polycarp]

"...but they just wanna be left alone..."TM

(By the way...imagine smokers standing on the steps of the Capital, screaming through loudspeakers for more funding for lung cancer, while chainsmoking unfiltered Camels. Homosexuals demanding money for AIDS and other homo STD research is no different. Both are behavior induced diseases.)