[buwaya]

Ya know, us residents of the hellhole don't seem to have much problem finding places to take the kids after dark.

I think your perceptions are skewed.

BTW, we avoid most touristy places.

[luckystarmom]

I live in the South Bay, and I've been to SF plenty of times. I prefer Los Gatos, Saratoga, Palo Alto, and Monterrey over SF. They are much cleaner and have great places to shop and eat.

As far as museums for children are concerned, I prefer the Tech Museum and the Children's Discovery Museum.

In SF, there are always traffic problems, no parking, and lots of bums. It's not very clean compared to other parts of the Bay Area.

I don't think my perceptions are too skewed.