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To: nickcarraway
I visted SF in March. Spent three days and two nights.

We stayed in a nice place (free parking - big factor) on 7th and Mission. It was great for being a tourist. It was awful for enjoying life.

It was filthy. Half the buisnesses were boarded up. Bums (I don't use the term homeless) were everywhere.

One night I wanted to buy some beer and went to the front desk to ask where the closest place was. In such a "progressive" city I thought it strange the average grocery store couldn't sell alcohol. I had to walk 4 blocks to a "liquor" store that strangly was allowed to sell groceries. Not even mini-marts could sell beer. Some progressivness.

NOWHERE and NO TIME could we stop and buy gas, go to a restaurant or whatever that we weren't accosted by bums for money. At least one entrepeneur, badly smelling bum actually had a portable vacumn and offered to clean my cars floors.

I was ready to walk to the store when the desk clerk said, "oh, you don't want to go now. Not at this hour". I did anyway and I made sure I bought enough so I didn't have to the next evening. I was harassed the entire walk back, "hey man, can I have a beer?" from at least a dozen people.

One day as we were driving north to go to Golden Gate Park we saw a horrible accident near the freeway. Later on the local news we saw the accident killed the driver when he tried to swerve around two bums (they called them homeless) who were fighting and fell into the street. Personally, I wouldn't risk my life for these scum.

We walked through the Market street area to Chinatown and they were urinating in the street, sleeping on the sidewalk, begging for money, and not a cop around.

If that's "progressive", I'll take my litte town south of Nashville where we have this concept called civility.

168 posted on 05/09/2003 11:25:18 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Can you say "50 state landslide"? Sure ya can!)
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To: Fledermaus
Oh, and we were there during the "peace" protest and I loved watching that.

I was driving along one street and they were hogging the intersection. I honked my horn and revved my engine...you should have seen those aging hippies jump! lol

Also, we noticed almost ALL the protestors were smokers. I thought the progressives hated tobacco!!
169 posted on 05/09/2003 11:29:27 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Can you say "50 state landslide"? Sure ya can!)
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To: Fledermaus
Yeah, there are bums. Too many, and the cops aren't allowed to roust them.

But you certainly picked a fine place for your hotel. Sixth and Market is bum HQ. Every liquor store for blocks around is dedicated to their service, for obvious reasons.

I can recommend dozens of better places to stay.
206 posted on 05/10/2003 3:06:05 PM PDT by buwaya
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