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To: gore3000
Really? Evolution does not say that natural selection is the agency by which the good and the bad changes in organisms are sifted???????????

The theory of evolution is about prokariotes or better, as you know. The theory of evolution is mute about what might have happened before we got to prokariotes. As you know, on those rare occasions when you aren't deliberately misrepresenting what claims science makes.

The above is the reason why the evolutionists will never state exactly what the theory of evolution is and how it works. As soon as a refutation is given for what it obviously says and for what evolutionists have been saying for 150 years, they say that evolution is not about that. They are thus always saying what evolution is not, but never what evolution is since just about every single statement in it has been totally disproven.

As usual, you do not give the appearance of person with the slightest notion of what a proof is. And as usual, every claim you've made here is totally irrelevant, to anyone that's been to a natural history museum in the last 20 years or so, with his brights turned on. It is not science's job to jump through any hoops any lame idiot with a bee in his bonnet raises for it to jump through. The basic laws of physics aren't the same as they were 100 years ago, and I don't see you complaining about that. Science changes as we learn more. This is not, contrary to your nonsensical skreed, a jailable offense.

1,392 posted on 05/14/2003 10:19:37 PM PDT by donh (u)
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To: donh
Really? Evolution does not say that natural selection is the agency by which the good and the bad changes in organisms are sifted??????????? -me-

The theory of evolution is about prokariotes or better, as you know.

Still saying that evolution is about bacteria. It is about all living things descending from each other. AND IT DOES NOT WORK FOR THE REASON GIVEN - fitness, natural selection, the supposed agency of evolution will make it impossible to achieve the numerous gradual changes required for a species to transform itself into a more complex species because fitness/natural selection requires (as you have already admitted) that each and every change provide increased viability or it will destroy those with the new change.

In your own words:

It's a truism of entomology (been demonstrated in sealed mason jars thousands of times) that when two nearly identical species occupy nearly the same contained biological nitche, one or the other will eventually prevail entirely, no matter how tiny its differential advantage.
1,012 posted on 05/09/2003 9:59 PM PDT by donh ).

You have been trying to dance around this for over three hundred posts and continue to fail to address it. Without natural selection there is no 'how' to evolution, with natural selection evolution is impossible.

1,426 posted on 05/15/2003 4:45:14 AM PDT by gore3000
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