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To: gore3000
My argument against evolution is concicely stated in post#1265 just above.

So, apparently, you don't understand what "concise" means either. You have simply found an incredibly longwinded way to reject my suggestion that evolution did not always work the way it works in prokariotes. So it is just a restatement of your basic theme--that prokariotes had to leap into existence out of junk. This is the entire basis of your argument, absurd as it is, and you have simply window-dressed it to make it look more impressive than it is. It is likely that the rules governing meat machines are not going the be the rules for what went on before meat machines. My supposed contradiction is simply the fruit of me being willing to talk about pre- and post- meat machine paradigms--compounded by your inability to hone in on the precise details of any argument, busy as you are re-arranging your canned lecture yet again.

Pick and choose what you are arguing about and we can discuss that. Stop trying to purposely confuse the issues by saying that the argument against evolution does not apply to abiogenesis and that the argument against abiogenesis does not apply to evolution.

Take 5 seconds from your busy schedule to notice what I am actually arguing about regarding there being both a pre- and post- meat machine era, with distinct rules, and I'll consider discussing this further. Never mind agreeing or disagreeing with me--lets just see if you even understand.

1,308 posted on 05/13/2003 11:22:32 AM PDT by donh
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To: donh
You have simply found an incredibly longwinded way to reject my suggestion that evolution did not always work the way it works in prokariotes.

Evolution is not just about prokaryotes and you know it. My statements apply to all evolution and you know that also. The problem is the requirement of 'fitness' which supposedly drives ALL evolution. My concise argument, which you continue to fail to address is:

1. the experiment is false because it does not punish as yet useless novelties.
2. that evolution is impossible because the gradualness of it cannot be achieved due to the necessity of each miniscule change making the organism more fit at each and every point.

Now stop trying to confuse the issue and address the points I have made above about evolution and in post# 1329 about abiogenesis. They are completely different questions which you continue to try to confuse with each other for some 100 posts already.

1,338 posted on 05/13/2003 7:06:02 PM PDT by gore3000
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