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To: donh; William Wallace; Rippin
You will kindly note, from your own evidence here, the phrase "...evolution, which has not been FULLY proved even in the domain of natural sciences..."

Keying on Fully as the evidence that the Church accepts Darwinian evolution? If not, what other evidence do you offer about the Church's acceptance of this as man's origin? I am not aware of any and I have checked extensively since returning to the Church. I am happy to take the info I presented to you from the Cathechism of the Church and writings from different Popes and follow their conclusions as being current Church teachings. What is your evidence that the Church holds to Darwinian evolution?

1,248 posted on 05/12/2003 5:55:29 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: longshadow
Much-needed placemarker.
1,249 posted on 05/12/2003 7:32:12 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Dad was my hero
The "argument" you're having is a perfect illustration why these threads are a waste of time. FWIW your understanding of the Church's position on Darwinism is 100% correct. Don't hold your breath waiting for sources to the contrary or an admission from your opponent that he was wrong.
1,262 posted on 05/12/2003 2:47:22 PM PDT by William Wallace (Great Moments in NY Times Reporting: DARWIN'S THEORY IS PROVED TRUE (1912))
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To: Dad was my hero; William Wallace; Rippin
.You will kindly note, from your own evidence here, the phrase "...evolution, which has not been FULLY proved even in the domain of natural sciences..."

Keying on Fully as the evidence that the Church accepts Darwinian evolution? If not, what other evidence do you offer about the Church's acceptance of this as man's origin? I am not aware of any and I have checked extensively since returning to the Church.

Checked where? In a paper bag in the back of your closet? Let me call your attention to the 1996 formal address of the Pope to the Pontifical Academy of Science. I draw your attention to the rather famous 4th numbered paragraph, which, while the first official peep from a pope on the question, does not belay the fact that the jesuits have been teaching evolution since the 50's.

http://www.newadvent.org/docs/jp02tc.htm

I have heard many a lame explanation about how the Pope didn't really mean, it, or the pope wasn't speaking in the FORMAL VOICE OF JESUS at that particular moment--which is a pretty funny one, considering where He Said It.

But, I have never heard anyone say it was too obscure for him to look up. How innovative.

1,413 posted on 05/15/2003 12:05:42 AM PDT by donh (u)
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