‘Gay’ Log Cabin GOP Minnesota Leader Linked to Violence-Prone ‘UsQueers’ Website

Culture and Family Institute/ cwfa.org ^ | 4/30/2003 | Allyson Smith

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Amen.

[Trace21230]

"From the time he was 13 to 15, he had a steady girlfriend, and was a quiet, well adjusted, normal kid.

At age 15 he was sexually molested by three male homosexuals, and in the process was introduced to drugs (need those whip its to open up a virginal anal sphincter, you know) and heavy alcohol abuse. He has lived a self destructive homosexual lifestyle ever since, a lifestyle induced by molestation and coerced drug and alcohol use at an early age."

Victimology is a trademark of the democratic party, not the republican party. If your friend were truly heterosexual, he would be leading the life of one. Perhaps the reason he is "self-destructive" is because he has friends like you who view him as less than human because of his sexual orientation.

"His life has been destroyed by these fags, and you have the nerve to criticize me?"

Yup, I'll criticize anyone who makes public posts on this board that are contrary to freedom and liberty, not to mention hate-filled, as I believe they are.

"This type of predatory sexual abuse of young teenage boys is typical chickenhawking homosexual behavior. I've seen it so many times its enough to make me vomit.

And I guarantee if any of them ever touches one of my boys, I'll kill the bastard."

Them? Here's a news flash: not every homosexual is a 'predator'. In fact, the vast majority are not. In fact, there are heterosexuals that molest children. I know it must be hard for you to swallow that one, but yes, it's true. In fact, in terms of sheer numbers, I am confident that many more children are molested by heterosexuals than are molested by homosexuals. So, your outrage is, to say the least, a smidge misdirected.

"Furthermore, the credibility of my entire Church has been undermined by homosexuals who infiltrated its priesthood and systematically buggered its teenage altar boys for years."

The credibility of your Church has been undermined by a group of pedophiles. That group of deviants is different than those who are homosexuals. I'm sorry you can't differentiate the two.

"And the same jacka$$es (like you) who would criticize the Church for this buggering, also criticize the Church for being so "intolerant" of the homosexual agenda."

Actually, "jacka$$es" like me would recommend the Church's teaching on homosexuals to you. I've heard a lot more compassion from the Church towards homosexuals than I've ever seen in one of your posts.

"Thus the call for lowering the age of consent for homosexual sex across the board by the homo movement."

If you can prove 1) that the "homo movement" speaks for all homosexuals or 2) that pro-gay groups have actively campaigned for lowering the age of consent, please show your cards. Of course, if this is a specious lie, which I suspect it is, you lose even more credibiility.

"The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to this Republic and the institution of the family upon which all decent societies are built."

Another news flash: heterosexuals are doing far more damage to the "family upon which all decent societies are built" than any homosexual could ever dream of doing. Please educate yourself as to marriage and divorce rates over the past 50 years. Additionally, heterosexuals are responsible in large part for children growing up in single family homes and otherwise impoverished. Again, your passion is ridiculously misdirected.

"The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to our health system."

This doesn't even deserve a response. It is laughable, not to mention unsubstantiated.

"Mankind has spent several millenia developing effective and sanitary methods of disposing human waste.

Mankind knows that human waste is the source of deadly diseases."

Believe it or not, there are plenty of heterosexuals that engage in anal sex. I know that must come as a shock to your puritannical mindset, but it's true.

Inasmuch as you have cited medical studies from various sources, some dubious and some not, the prevalence of various diseases in the "gay population" really doesn't have much to do with a "health crisis." If you are interested in avoiding STDs like hepatitis and the like, simply don't have sex with multiple partners, and make sure those that you do have sex with are clean.

Your mentality of attacking an entire group of people just because it may be more likely to result in higher disease rates is akin to the liberal attack on smokers, the nazi attempt to remove certain types from the gene pool, and an affront to the liberties guaranteed by the Constitution in general.

If a homosexual, or a heterosexual, or a bisexual, or whatever, wishes to have sex a mentally competent adult who agrees, the fact that it is high risk behavior gives neither you nor me the right to prevent them from engaging in that activity.

I believe in personal responsibility, you apparently believe in paternalism and regulation of individual behavior.

That's not what this country is about. This country is about individual rights and the freedom to run your life as you desire.

I'm sorry you don't understand that.

"Any further "wonderings," Smuck?"

Nope, you've adequately explained to me that you can't justify your attacks and that your passion is woefully misdirected and irrational.

Thanks, though.

Trace

[Polycarp]

The credibility of your Church has been undermined by a group of pedophiles. That group of deviants is different than those who are homosexuals.

There have been no more than 1% of cases of true pedophilia (sex with a child under 12) in the hundreds of molestation cases that make up the currect Church scandal.

The vast majority (over 90%) involve homosexual molestation of teenage BOYS by MALE priests (call it homosexual ephebophilia if you like, or pederasty, or the popular fag term, "Chickenhawking.)

Since you so demonstrably lied on this whopper, I feel no compunction to waste my time shooting down the rest of them.

The conservative readers of this Forum know that you are simply a mouthpiece for the homosexual propaganda machine.

I'm not worried about which one of us is perceived to be telling the truth here.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

post #22. We've got a live one here.

[ninenot]

Weren't you posting under another screen name last week? Lurky? qwerty?

[Remedy]

heterosexuals are doing far more damage to the "family upon which all decent societies are built".

I AGREE! Heterosexuals TOLERATE homosexual acts. Heterosexuals should demand, by law, that homosexuals seek treatment:

• "The Summer of Our Discontent: The Church Fights Back in the Culture War on Homosexuality."
• Transforming Congregations is a network of uniting ("mainline") churches in the USA and Australia whose mission is to "provide information, resources and training in understanding and involvement in transforming ministry toward homosexuals, and to encourage transforming ministry based on loving compassion, scripture, and The Discipline of the United Methodist Church."
• Courage is a network of Roman Catholics whose mission is to "provide spiritual support for men and women striving to live chaste lives in accordance with the Catholic Church's pastoral teaching on homosexuality." Write to Courage, c/oChurch of St John the Baptist, 210 W 31st Street, New York, NY 10001. The phone number is (212) 268-1010. There are chapters in many major cities, including New York, Philadelphia, Harrisburg, and Chicago.
• One By One is a fellowship of Presbyterian (USA) churches whose mission is to "educate and equip the Church to minister the transforming grace and power of the Lord Jesus Christ to those who are in conflict with their sexuality."
• PFOX - welcome

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Because of the nature of the crime, the penalties for the act of sodomy were often severe. For example, Thomas Jefferson indicated that in his home state of Virginia, "dismemberment" of the offensive organ was the penalty for sodomy. ⁷ In fact, Jefferson himself authored a bill penalizing sodomy by castration. ⁸ The laws of the other states showed similar or even more severe penalties:

That the detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . shall be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that every person being thereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall be hanged by the neck until he or she shall be dead. ⁹ NEW YORK

That if any man shall lie with mankind as he lieth with womankind, both of them have committed abomination; they both shall be put to death. ¹⁰ CONNECTICUT

Sodomy . . . shall be punished by imprisonment at hard labour in the penitentiary during the natural life or lives of the person or persons convicted of th[is] detestable crime. ¹¹ GEORGIA

That if any man shall commit the crime against nature with a man or male child . . . every such offender, being duly convicted thereof in the Supreme Judicial Court, shall be punished by solitary imprisonment for such term not exceeding one year and by confinement afterwards to hard labor for such term not exceeding ten years. ¹² MAINE

That if any person or persons shall commit sodomy . . . he or they so offending or committing any of the said crimes within this province, their counsellors, aiders, comforters, and abettors, being convicted thereof as above said, shall suffer as felons. ¹³ [And] shall forfeit to the Commonwealth all and singular the lands and tenements, goods and chattels, whereof he or she was seized or possessed at the time . . . at the discretion of the court passing the sentence, not exceeding ten years, in the public gaol or house of correction of the county or city in which the offence shall have been committed and be kept at such labor. ¹⁴ PENNSYLVANIA

[T]he detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that the offenders being hereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall suffer such pains of death and losses and penalties of their goods. ¹⁵ SOUTH CAROLINA

That if any man lieth with mankind as he lieth with a woman, they both shall suffer death. ¹⁶ VERMONT

8. Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson M emorial Association, 1904), Vol. I, pp. 226-227, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."
9. Laws of the State of New-York . . . Since the Revolution (New York: Thomas Greenleaf, 1798), Vol. I, p. 336.
10. The Public Statute Laws of the State of Connecticut (Hartford: Hudson and Goodwin, 1808), Book I, p. 295.
11. A Digest of the Laws of the State of Georgia (Milledgeville: Grantland & Orme, 1822), p. 350.
12. Laws of the State of Maine (Hallowell: Goodale, Glazier & Co., 1822), p. 58.
13. Laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia: John Bioren, 1810), Vol. I, p. 113.
14. Collinson Read, An Abridgment of the Laws of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, 1801), p. 279.
15. Alphabetical Digest of the Public Statute Laws of South-Carolina (Charleston: John Hoff, 1814), Vol. I, p. 99.
16. Statutes of the State of Vermont (Bennington, 1791), p. 74.

BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law…. During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed…. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." W. Blackstone, Commentaries . The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

Texas Physicians Resource Council, Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association In fact, same-sex sodomy has resulted in the transformation of diseases previously transmitted only through fecally contamin-ated food and water into sexually caused diseases– primarily among those who practice same-sex sodomy.

Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS - Dr. Brian J. Kopp, ...

Public health records demonstrate that homosexuals, representing 2 percent of America's population, suffer vastly disproportionate percentages of several of America's most serious STDs, with incidences among homosexuals of diseases like gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis A and B, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, amoebic bowel disease and herpes far exceeding their presence in the general population. These are due to common homosexual practices that include fellatio, anilingus, digital stimulation of the rectum and ingestion of urine and feces.

An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year. The same study indicated the number of annual sexual partners averaged nearly 100. Homosexuals averaged, per year, fellating 106 different men and swallowing 50 of their seminal ejaculations, and 72 penile penetrations of the anus. (Corey, L, and Holmes, K.K., "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men," New England Journal of Medicine, 1980, vol 302: 435-438; as quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

 

Citizens Against Government Waste

Since the first federal resources were made available to state and local health agencies for AIDS prevention in 1985, federal funding, which now includes money for research, treatment, and housing, has skyrocketed to $13 billion for fiscal 2003. As a result of the work of highly mobilized lobbying forces, more is spent per patient on AIDS than on any other disease, though it does not even currently rank among the top 15 causes of death in the United States. In one year, 1998, heart disease, the nation's leading cause of death, killed 724,859 Americans only 6.8 percent less than the 774,767 who have contracted AIDS in the last 20 years.² Of those 774,767 total AIDS cases, 462,766 have died. During that same period, 14 million Americans 30 times more have died of heart disease.

Research expenditures at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) demonstrate the uneven use of federal resources. In 1996, NIH spent an average of $1,160 for every heart disease death, $4,700 for every cancer death, and a whopping $43,000 for every AIDS death.³ Even though they get far less research money, that year heart disease killed 24 times more and cancer killed 17 times more than the number of people who died from AIDS in 1996, when AIDS was still the seventh leading cause of death in the U.S.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

It's time for AIDS funding like that (to the tune of $43,000 per death!) to be pulled. Make it even with heart disease or less. And I think we should be doing tracings, not anon testing! People need to be traced if they are carrying this disease! This is what they do with every single communicable disease EXCEPT AIDS! Because of the homosexual lobby. And celebrities.

[First Amendment]

Talk about shock and awe - I think the homo Nazis must be scared, there have been so many of them on FR lately - probably got their marching orders to come and disrupt, chainging names so it looks as though there are many of them. I noticed their home pages on FR (or whatever it's called) are similar (when they put any "info" there) - kind of fake and smarmy.
It looks to me as though the fag Nazis are taking their masks off. Helping to separate the sheep from the goats, I guess. This should help people (sheeple?) who are sitting on the fence, to decide which side they want to be one - the side of light and truth, or the side of darkness and evil.
I'm in awe, and my thanks are to the brave souls on FR who speak the truth.

[First Amendment]

Which side they are on, not one!

[quietolong]

BUMP

[Trace21230]

"Weren't you posting under another screen name last week?"

Nope, but I'm glad to see someone else on this site understands freedom.

Trace

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Freedom to infect?

[DLfromthedesert]

I believe you're right. Trace's home page states he's moderate to conservative, hates Clinton, and loves Reagan; yet his main concern seems to be defending the radical gay agenda.

[Polycarp]

jlogajan?

[mabelkitty]

Better get this to O'Reilly.

Better yet, send it to Ashcroft and Tom Ridge.

[mabelkitty]

My husband is a Bible Scholar.

He's also a Marine - served in Vietnam - for 18 months.

Bring it on!

[mabelkitty]

Poster is exercising their First Amendment.

If you don't like the thread, leave.

Why try to discredit and censor? Do you have an ulterior motive?

[FormerLib]

Fortunately, even for us Christians, there is still a Second Amendment.

Amen!

[FormerLib]

It's good to be reminded that the Log Samplin' Republicans are the enemies of that which is good and decent. We don't want them! Not their votes, not their money, not their diseases.

[scripter]

Don't know if you saw this. I was searching WorldNetdaily and found Log Cabin leader tied to radical 'queers', which is probably based on this article. One (or two) more for the database.