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To: sparkomatic
Where is it written that an ex-convict loses his constitutional rights?

Right here:

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

He received due process. Therefore, it is Constitutional to forbid him from owning a gun, and to jail him if he takes possession of one.

And this guy should have known this. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

OTOH, I could see the Executive authority of this state giving this guy a pardon at some point. While what he did was stupid and against the law, the act he was engaged in was otherwise lawful (I'm presuming here that he wasn't in violation of any other laws) and he hurt no one but himself.

39 posted on 04/30/2003 6:20:44 AM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF; All
There should be room in our system for reformed people to restore both their right to be armed and their right to vote. Not sure if this guy meets the bar or not.

Is there a process, short of an official pardon, for felons to regain their right to be armed?

Anyone?
145 posted on 04/30/2003 8:08:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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To: RonF
Yes, ignorance of the law is no excuse. After all, there are only about 520,000 laws on the book in America today, filling something like 160 feet of shelf space in a law library. Remember, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Better get reading!
150 posted on 04/30/2003 8:30:10 AM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: RonF
He received due process. Therefore, it is Constitutional to forbid him from owning a gun, and to jail him if he takes possession of one.

I disagree. Due process entails a hearing and a judgement. If someone is convicted of a felony in state court of a state crime, where does the federal government have standing to impose their own sentence on the person without due process of their own?

157 posted on 04/30/2003 8:42:30 AM PDT by dirtboy (PaleoNeoCon - a neocon who was neocon before neocon was cool...)
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To: RonF
"He received due process. Therefore, it is Constitutional to forbid him from owning a gun"

Rubbish !!

The consstitution specifically forbids the enactment of all gun laws. No Exceptions. - Due process requires the nullification of all gun statutes. Anything less is short of Due process.

295 posted on 04/30/2003 8:18:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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