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There are a bunch of people on this thread who I regularly see who claim to be pro gun but can be counted on the attack those who really are.

This is a false argument btw. Not a single person in this discussion is trying to say the guy should not be punished for his original crimes. In fact I would bet money that those who are pro gun would be the ones wanting the most severe punishment.

What we don't like is the constant erosion of not just gun rights but all human rights.

There are those of us who believe in redemption of the individutal. Some people are simply lying and saying there is no chance of an ordinary person being convicted of a felony. As I said earlier and others have pointed out, almost everyone has committed a felony at some time in their life.

The fact that they are very unlikely to be prosecuted does not change the fact that if someone with the power decides to go after a particular person, they can do so and do it completely by the book, giving the person total due process.

You are preaching to the choir.

Until 1968, there were no Federal statutes banning gunrights for felons, it was up to the states...and most Red Zone states automatically granted gun rights back after parole for criminals.

In 1968...the Gun Control Act changed all of that federally in the wake of a rise in urban crime, riots, and assasinations. They did leave it up to states for those convicted on state charges and they claimed domain over federal felons. They also left in an individual apllication mechanism for federal felons to seek redress thru the ATF individually based on merit. The ATF to their credit granted most rights back ...sometimes in a limited way...to those that they viewed as "redeemed". Then in 1992 or so, Congress yanked the ATF's specific funding for that program and effectively killed it. Then a federal felon could apply for a waiver from a sitting Federal judge and that worked until 2002 when SCOTUS ruled that Fed judges did not have the right to usurp the authority of the ATF or Congress and that it was the ATF's job even though Congress had cut off funding....a classic Catch-22...and W supported this.

At the same time, now Federal Prosecutors will take on any state felon in possesion of a firearm that they wish in addition to any federal felon. The 1987 Federal Sentencing Guidelines which have been amped up even more since then carry draconian sentences for such "crimes" from 5 years or so to life in some cases for a class III weapon with other factors considered......and I'm not talkling about murder here.

No felon anymore has any recourse in this matter.

And as we all know, it's not just felons or even those convicted of a crime....restraining orders work as well.

Why bother to outlaw guns when they can slowly outlaw gunowners. I would venture that 10-15 percent of the adult male population of this country are already at risk for a gun felony and many don't even know it.