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To: tahiti
But it is inconsistent and intellectually feeble to state that only one enumerated right is denied (2nd amendment) after a felony conviction but all of the other enumerated rights, in particular 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, and 9th, which are all individual rights, are not denied as well

Rights are far from absolute!

(Now that's enough to scare most of us Conservatives, until we look at the reality of the situation)

Like it or not, as a civilized society, we routinely give up certain rights.

For example, the freedom of speech dooes not give us the right to cry "fire" in a crowded theater, to make jokes about bombs on aircraft, to make fraudulent statements in the pursuit of profit, etc.

Convicted criminals lose the right of free assembly, (being in jail or even afterwards in associating with other known criminals) as do school students, (you can't just walk out of class and into the hallway.)

The 2d Ammendment does not give you, (or the Al Quida terroist down the block,) the right to possess nuclear weapons. Freedom of the Press does not give the convicted child molester working for the local paper the right to take photographs of my 12 year old daughter and photomanipulate them onto the body of a nude woman having sex, then publish them.

I'm an NRA Life Member (Charlton says Hi!) and carry my Glock most everywhere, but am glad the 2d Amemdment does not give some psychotic the right to park in front of your house with a M2 .50 cal Browning HMG pointed at your daughter's window.

The concept of "rights" being absolute begins to have trouble when you realize that absolute means exactly that, and they apply to your enemies, the sick, the criminal, etc., not just us.

137 posted on 04/30/2003 7:52:50 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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To: MindBender26
The 2d Ammendment does not give you, (or the Al Quida terroist down the block,) the right to possess nuclear weapons.

Well you can't "bare" a nuclear weapon. Well OK maybe the suitcase ones are legal.

144 posted on 04/30/2003 8:02:36 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: MindBender26
"Like it or not, as a civilized society, we routinely give up certain rights.

For example, the freedom of speech dooes not give us the right to cry "fire" in a crowded theater, to make jokes about bombs on aircraft, to make fraudulent statements in the pursuit of profit, etc."

That is correct, we have no "freedom of speech rights" on private property and yes there are civil punishments for fraudulent statements.

But, your government cannot deny or restrict your "freedom of speech rights" on such same property.

It is stated umambiguously, absolutely, and with complete clarity:

"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech,"

Since the 14th amendment establishes jurisdiction of the constitution within the boundaries of a state, "Congress" becomes all government entities.

As I like to say to the gun control freaks, "what part of NO do you not understand?"

It is the owner of the theatre and the owner of the airline that can have you physically removed from their property or denied entrance and ultimately, sued for the damages that you cause by acting irresponsibly against the wishes of the owner.

It is part of the socialist/communist fraud that has undermined the presumption of liberty established by our founding fathers, that government control and regulation has been so easily implemented by corrupt judges and politicans who bark out phrases such as "compelling state interest" and "for public safety" to appeal to those citizens not courages enought to live in a free society.

304 posted on 05/01/2003 7:29:32 PM PDT by tahiti
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