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The truth remains: the Turkish court which condemned the officials responsible for the Armenian genocide was as legitimate as was the Nuremburg triumvirates. Both were imposed by conquering powers. And their findings are still accepted by all parties except, not surprisingly, the Turks. As far as the Allied tribunal, it is quite likely that the elapsed time allowed the Ottoman to conceal the evidence and liquidate or intimidate the witnesses who would naturally fear for their lives after the Allies left again. After all, the feeble and dying Otttoman empire was propped up for, what, 150 years by the European powers?

It is astonishing to see someone condemn a Most Loyal nation like Armenia which was, in face, a captive nation of the Ottoman empire. Their leaders' determined demonstration of nationalism and a separate national identity led directly to the massacres of the Armenians at the hands of the Ottoman empire. It appears that the Armenian nation was Most Loyal but its leaders were not, at least in your fanciful tale.

I notice that you like to refer to Armenians who champion the cause of their dead forebears as "terrorists". Very similar to how a_Turk terms the Kurd as "terrorists" if they are in opposition to Turkey. Like you seem to depict the ordinary Armenians of the period, he speaks of the joyful happy loyal Kurds in Turkey and the "terrorist" Kurds in Iraq/Syria/Iran. Of course, the ones in Iraq do live on some of the best unexploited oil deposits in the world...

How is it, then, that Turkey has so constantly been surrounded by communists and terrorists and other bad guys and yet managed to survive and, all the while, have the most feared military in the region?

At any rate, most of this history hardly matters, especially if one is engaging in the futility of arguing with a holocaust denier.

The now-exposed diplomatic plots by Turkey and Iran to partition northern Iraq and seize its oil is now fully exposed to the world's view. Thanks to us, Turkey won't have to dirty its hands by repeating the Armenian procedure in northern Iraq.

The universal condemnation of Turkey's atrocities against the Armenians still stands. As does the near-universal condemnation of Turkey's invasion of Cyprus. And we are no longer willing to take your side on that one, not after the Stupid Party in Ankara stabbed us in the back. We'll see how you fare with Greece and the EU and see if you think it's all been worth it. Oh, yeah, and forget that sweet pipeline deal and the discounted oil too if Turkey doesn't shape up.

'... a_Turk terms the Kurds as "terrorists" if they are in opposition to Turkey.'

Abso-bloody-lutely. In my old stomping grounds in Bakirkoy one of these Kurdish, err, freedom fighters walked into a crowded department store one weekend with a firebomb under his coat and set it off just after I left Turkey. That's just my own personal experience, mind you, but there are plenty of other examples. Turkey's been going through the equivalent of several 9/11 type incidents a year for a lot longer than we have.

What are the primary documents that Armenians cite as being proof of a genocide?

A brief examination of these will proove that these are all false.

1 - The painting by Visili Verashagov at the Tridiyagof Museum in Russia said to depist the massacres of Armenians during WWI: The painting was about the brutality of the German-Russian War between 1871-72.

2 - The British Blue Book by Toynbee: Info on this in previous posts which you still insist on not reading. It was written entirely by Armenians and Toynbee merely edited it.

3 - 40 Days on Musa Dag - This book was written to depict Nazi Germany but due to the political situation at the time in the author's (Franz Werfel) native country Austria, he picked the Young Turks as the subject of the book. The author himself confessed this before his death and this was also documented by Austrian historian Prof. Erich Fiegel. In fact the book infuriated Turkish Armenians which burned it in front of Pangalti Armenian Church in Istanbul on December 15th, 1935.

4 - Morgernthau's Memoirs - Refuted above but since your narrow mind can not take any further information about the realities behind Armenian allegations, I doubt you have bothered to read it anyway. Besides these are not official documents. The pfficial documents on this topic were written by American an Admiral named Bristol and verify the fact that Turks were the victims of attrocities at the hands of Armenians.

5 - Interview with Mustafa Kemal Ataturk by a Swiss journalist named Emile Hildebrand for the Los Angeles Examiner. No record of this person was found in neither the Turkish foreign office or the Swiss embassy. This person does not even exist. In fact the editor of the Boston Armenian Review, James Taschiyan, warned Armenians about the use of such false documents in an editorial he wrote.

6 - The telegram by Talat Pasha supposedly constituting a proof for his genocide plans. This telegram which is on display at the Armenian Genocide Museum is a terrible forgery. The telegram does not comply with the regular Ottoman encryption scheme of the time and was dated a year before it was supposedly sent. His signature on the telegram was an obvious forfeit and the Governor of the Aleppo Province Abdulhalik Bey had not even been appointed to that position at the date of telegram.