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Those who knew Peterson express shock
The Fresno Bee ^ | Published Friday, April 25, 2003, 4:45 AM | Laura Mecoy

Posted on 04/25/2003 6:16:53 AM PDT by runningbear

Those who knew Peterson express shock
San Diego native accused of murder was loving, they say.


'TIL MURDER DO THEM PART:
Scott Peterson, whose wedding photo appears on the cover of Star magazine (inset), didn't keep his marriage vows to Laci, who was pregnant when the philanderer took up with another woman.

Meet Mr Wrong

Those who knew Peterson express shock
San Diego native accused of murder was loving, they say.

By Laura Mecoy
The Sacramento Bee

(Published Friday, April 25, 2003, 4:45 AM)

SAN DIEGO -- In his high school yearbooks, Scott Peterson displays his "pulverizing" golf swing and tells his classmates to "watch for me" after his 1990 graduation.

The young man who led his golf team to an undefeated season in 1990 was hoping his golf swing would bring him fame.

Instead, at age 30, he has become known as a philandering husband arrested with $10,000 in cash and charged with murdering his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son.

Former classmates and others who watched Peterson grow up in San Diego wonder how the well-mannered youth they knew could be suspected of committing such a crime.

"I am having a very difficult time with this," family friend Joan Pernicano said, holding back tears. "The scary thing to me is if someone as responsible, as caring and as loving as him could do this, then any of our sons could."

Peterson has denied any role in his wife's Christmas Eve disappearance. Her fate was unknown until her remains and the remains of their unborn son washed ashore near Richmond two weeks ago.

Peterson was arrested a week ago in La Jolla, an exclusive beach area near the northern San Diego County suburbs where he grew up and where his parents and four of his siblings live.

Peterson, born Oct. 24, 1972, in San Diego, is the youngest of seven children. But he is the only child born to Lee and Jackie Peterson after they married in 1971, according to family friend Eric Salzmann.

The other six children -- four boys and two girls -- were from the couple's earlier marriages.

"Scott was kind of raised as an only child," Salzmann said. "Most of the other kids were older and were out of the house." By all accounts, the family was a close one that shared a love for recreational sports.

"As soon as they could fit a golf club in Scott's hand, he was out golfing with them," Pernicano said. "He also loved fishing." In 1975, Lee and Jackie Peterson started their own business, San Diego Crating & Packing. Their children occasionally worked for them, and Lee Peterson's son, Joe, runs the Poway business today.

The packing company provided a comfortable lifestyle for the family. They lived in Scripps Ranch, an upscale suburb east of La Jolla, while Scott Peterson attended elementary school.

Scott Peterson took piano lessons with his mother and joined Pernicano's Cub Scout troop.

"Scott was just a good kid who didn't get into trouble," Pernicano recalled. "My kid was in the canyon lighting bonfires, but Scott wasn't that kind of boy." When Scott entered fifth grade, she said, the Petersons moved to another northern San Diego suburb, Rancho Bernardo, and then to Rancho Santa Fe, where they had a one-story home with a guest house and pool in the back.

"We had little remote-control boats we raced in their pool," Salzmann recalled.

Scott Peterson's parents sent their son across town to University of San Diego High School, a private Catholic school adjacent to the college.

Scott Peterson joined the school's golf team, playing the first two years in the shadow of Phil Mickelson, who would become a top PGA player.

Mickelson has said he doesn't remember Scott Peterson. But the high school's golf coach, Dave Thoennes, has said Scott Peterson stepped in to take over as the team's leader after Mickelson graduated in 1988.

Scott Peterson was twice named the team's most valuable player and was named three times to The San Diego Tribune's All-Academic Team.

While one teammate remembered Peterson as arrogant and a loner, others said they recalled him as outgoing and helpful.

"He always went to all the little dances and functions," former teammate Brian Tasto said. "He had good character, good friends and came from a good family." Tasto said Peterson was never "hot-headed" or showed signs of a temper.

"He never hung out with a bad crowd," Tasto said. "Everybody asks if there is some underlying issue, and the answer is no. That is what creates the shock for us."

After graduation, Scott Peterson went to Arizona State University on a partial golf scholarship but stayed there only a short time.

Salzmann said Scott Peterson missed his parents. They had moved to Morro Bay, and he moved back in with them.

His parents declined to be interviewed because, they said, their son is "in legal jeopardy." In earlier interviews, however, Jackie Peterson said her youngest child moved out after six months.

Scott Peterson began working three jobs to put himself through.

Guilty Until Proven Innocent?:
Why Scott Peterson's Guilt Remains Far From Obvious


Jonna Spilbor

EXCERPTED:

On April 19, not far from the home once shared by Scott and Laci Peterson, California law enforcement officials gathered for a news conference while the nation braced itself in anticipation. Four months of waiting - and hoping - would now come to an end. Authorities were confident that the bodies that had washed up on shore in San Francisco would be identified as those of Laci Peterson and her unborn child.

The announcement left many deeply saddened, of course, but not altogether shocked. The police had subtly prepared us for the worst long before the official announcement.

What was quite shocking, in my professional opinion, was the decision to charge Scott Peterson with murder. But my shock, I soon learned, would not be shared by all.

The History of the Peterson Case

As many readers will recall, it was last Christmas Eve that Laci Peterson vanished from her home in Modesto, California. She was nearly eight months pregnant at the time, and due to give birth to her first child, Conner, on February 10, 2003.

News of Laci's disappearance made immediate headlines. Soon, strangers from across the country would come to feel they knew Laci Peterson almost as if she were an old friend. The beautiful smile of this mother-to-be shone through, even in grainy pictures on television screens.

As days gave way to weeks, images of a woman very much alive spilled warmly into our living rooms. Often, they were accompanied by the prayerful pleas of her parents, in-laws, and siblings requesting - at times, even commanding - Laci's safe return home.

We all waited for their prayers to be answered.

But on March 5, the Laci Peterson case, previously a "missing persons" investigation, was publicly reclassified as a homicide investigation.

And on April 13 and 14, the bodies of a full-term fetus and a woman, respectively, washed up on the shore of San Francisco Bay. Images of blue, Bay-soaked body bags were looping frequently on television screens. Many observers, including myself, held their breath. While we were uncertain as to whom the lifeless bodies belonged, we knew who we hoped they would not be.

On April 18, before the remains were positively identified, Scott Peterson was arrested for the murder of his wife and unborn child. On April 19, as noted above, the decision to charge Peterson was announced. And on April 24, California prosecutors confirmed their intent to seek the death penalty.

Two Sharply Different Views on Peterson's Arrest

Police and prosecutors had barely left the podium before I was whisked away to a well-known cable news network. There, I spent the morning providing legal commentary on the arrest of Scott Peterson from a criminal defense perspective.

The familiar greenroom was filled with an equally familiar sea of faces; a private investigator in one corner; a former police chief in another; and of course a smattering of prosecutors. I sat down next to another "legal expert" and colleague of mine to exchange thoughts on the case before going live.

My first comment went something like this: "Can you believe police actually arrested Scott Peterson so soon? Boy, they really jumped the gun this time!"

Suddenly, the pearly white teeth of my colleague disappeared behind a scowl. His eyes narrowed slightly, and his head cocked just as my pet pooch's does when he is confused by the sounds coming out of my mouth. Then he spoke: "Don't you mean to say, you can't believe he did it? C'mon. Scott Peterson is as guilty as they come."

It was time to do my own confused pooch imitation. With my head titled in a mirror image of my friend's, I continued: "Guilty? How can you say a person is guilty simply because he's been charged? It is a giant leap between arrest and conviction, my friend. I don't know whether Scott Peterson is guilty, and neither do you. What I do know, is there seems to be little physical evidence to support the charges at this point. That's all I'm saying."

Just then, the room which had been abuzz with shop talk when I arrived, became completely silent. I could tell I was alone in my view; the other guests clearly disapproved.

Again, I was somewhat taken by surprise. Not only did I believe what I was saying, I thought it hewed very closely to the facts. After all, no prosecutor or lawyer could credibly claim that the case against Scott Peterson is - based on publicly-disclosed evidence at least - anything but circumstantial.

The main evidence against him is that the location where he said he was fishing, was a few miles from where the two bodies were discovered. That's bad - but for now, that's it. It doesn't sound like "beyond a reasonable doubt" to me. Peterson could be guilty; but he could be the victim of a horrible coincidence, as well.

Finally, after a few seconds which seemed more like hours, one voice broke the awkward silence with this question: "How can you possibly defend someone so guilty?"

Never before had a greenroom been such a cold and scary place. I didn't have a chance to give a full answer then, but I can try to give one now.

Why the Presumption of Innocence Counts Outside the Courtroom Too

Of course, Scott Peterson, like all others in our country who are criminally accused, is presumed innocent until proven guilty. That crucial presumption comes from the right to a fair trial, which has its roots in the weave of the Constitution's Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments.

Laws on fetal slaying are complex, evolving


Scott Peterson

EXCERPTED:

Laws on fetal slaying are complex, evolving

By Michael Doyle -- Bee Washington Bureau

Published 2:15 a.m. PDT Thursday, April 24, 2003

WASHINGTON -- Baby Girl Vogt died years ago on a California mountain road, a ghastly step in the legal path that permits Scott Peterson to be charged with murdering his unborn son.

In a country where legal abortions are commonplace, fetal protections can only be described as complex. These complexities and conflicts are highlighted when, as in the Peterson case, police charge someone with murdering the not-yet-born.

"It helps bring into focus what the argument is about," Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee, said of the Peterson case Wednesday. "And the argument is, do these types of crimes have one victim or two?"

In fact, the double-murder charges lodged against Peterson showcase a legal evolution that's still under way.

Twenty-six states, including California, explicitly permit someone to be charged with killing a fetus. The states differ in their definitions, though. Fourteen, like Utah and Missouri, cover the fetus at any state of development; the other 12, including California, cover only those fetuses that have reached a certain level of development.

Oklahoma law, for instance, covers any "unborn quick child," or viable fetus, while California protects a fetus that has passed the "embryonic stage."

This is generally pegged at seven or eight weeks. Laci Peterson was about eight months pregnant when she was killed.

In Congress, legislation backed by nine conservative Republican senators would likewise permit federal homicide or manslaughter charges against someone who kills any fetus while committing another violent federal crime. Abortions would be exempted.

"The fact is that it is just plain wrong that our federal government does absolutely nothing to criminalize violent acts against unborn children," Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, said on introducing the bill. "We cannot allow criminals to get away with murder."

DeWine cited an Ohio-based Air Force enlisted man who beat his pregnant wife and thereby killed the 8-month-old fetus she was carrying. Military prosecutors were initially unable, under existing military and federal law, to charge the man with murder. Ultimately, they employed Ohio state law to accomplish the same purpose.

The House of Representatives in 2001 approved similar legislation by a 252-172 vote, but the issue has become so entangled in the larger abortion rights debate that the measure's political prospects remain unclear.

The Peterson murder case makes the issue even trickier, for some.

A spokeswoman for the National Organization for Women said Wednesday that the normally outspoken group would not discuss the legislation out of respect for the Peterson family. In the past, though, the organization has vigorously fought unborn-victim statutes.

In California's case, the law has its roots in the tragedy involving a 5-pound, 18-inch-long fetus dubbed Baby Girl Vogt.

Teresa Keeler, the mother, was living in Stockton with a man named Ernest Vogt. In February 1969, her former husband, Robert Harrison Keeler, encountered her on a narrow road in Amador County and became enraged upon discovering her pregnancy.

"He said, 'You sure are (pregnant). I'm going to stomp it out of you,' " according to documents from the California Supreme Court. "He pushed her against the car, shoved his knee into her abdomen, and struck her in the face with several blows."

The fetus was delivered stillborn at a Stockton hospital.

Physicians testified they were reasonably certain that the fetus had developed to the point of viability, and Keeler's ex-husband was charged with murder.

But as Associate Justice Stanley Mosk noted in an influential opinion, Keeler's husband could be guilty of murder only if a fetus was "a human being within the meaning of the statute." Mosk further determined the California lawmakers who wrote the state's first statute against murder, in 1850, didn't intend to protect a fetus.

Reports of Damaging Evidence Against Scott Peterson

MODESTO — Police have evidence that Scott Peterson devised home-made anchors to sink his wife's body in San Francisco Bay. A crime report, apparently released by accident, indicates that the killing occurred at the Peterson home in Modesto.

Snip it:

Attorneys In Peterson Case Square Off
'Two Sides Make Formidable Attorneys'


DA Jim Brazelton

Public Defender Ken Faulkner

EXCERPTED:

Attorneys In Peterson Case Square Off
'Two Sides Make Formidable Attorneys'

Karen Brown

POSTED: 10:33 p.m. PDT April 24, 2003
UPDATED: 10:50 p.m. PDT April 24, 2003

MODESTO, Calif. -- The Scott Peterson trial has not started, but that has not stopped attorneys on both sides from speaking out about the case.

Scott Peterson remains in jail, but much of his fate now lies in the hands of his new attorney, Ken Faulkner, NBC11's Karen Brown reported.

Another high profile attorney in Modesto describes Faulkner as a nuts and bolts kind of guy who will provide a vigorous defense.

The same attorney described the district attorney's office as always formidable and now both sides are facing off, Brown said.

On the one side of the Laci Peterson murder case, you have a former police officer, turned prosecutor, and his team of attorneys in the Stanislaus DA's office.

"In my opinion, it's a case that cries out for a death penalty consideration," said Jim Brazelton, the Stanislaus County district attorney.

And on the other side, you have a veteran public defender with over 20 years of experience in private practice that is irritated with the DA for making public comments about the case.

"Well, I think it's unfortunate. Mr. Braselton said that he wanted Mr. Peterson to get a fair trial and I think he's doing everything he can to prevent that," said Kent Faulkner, the deputy public defender.

New Information About Scott Peterson's Affair


Scott and Amber

New information is surfacing about Scott Peterson's affair with Amber Frey.

Channel 5 has obtained a photo of the couple, taken before a holiday party two weeks before Laci disappeared. Sources also tell Channel 5 that on December 23rd, Frey called the Peterson home and Laci reportedly answered the phone.

Meantime, Stanislaus County District Attorney Jim Brazelton says he "absolutely" would like to pursue the death penalty against Scott Peterson. But Brazelton said he won't decide without talking to Laci Peterson's family.

"In my opinion, it's a death penalty case," he said. "But we're not going to make that decision until we have all the input."

Since his arrest for the murder of his wife and unborn son, Scott Peterson has been living in a six-by-nine foot cell at the Stanislaus County Jail. His only visitors so far have been his parents.

Jail guards allow the 30-year-old to spend 90 minutes twice a week in the exercise yard. But Peterson draws some attention from the other inmates.

"They just make cat calls, and they'll say things to try to taunt him," said Kelly Huston of the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department. "That's not unlike a lot of the things that go on within that tier. People in our maximum security area are people facing serious charges, like Scott, or who are disciplinary problems."

Scott Peterson has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder with special circumstances.

» 04-24-2003

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To: runningbear
and if they have a side of the case to get it out.

This ought to be good.

201 posted on 04/25/2003 4:13:39 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: runningbear
Yeah, he may be taking a swipe at Connecticut. Isn't that where the "other story" was, where the baby didn't get any consideration?
202 posted on 04/25/2003 4:15:51 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: uvular
If true, kinda sounds like he wasn't too crazy about his current in-laws, or perhaps that's just one of his standard pickup lines!

I vote for standard pick-up line. My (not)soon(enough)-to-be-ex used that line on his girlfriend (also a single mom with one child whom he his now cohabitating with). He told her how much he couldn't stand my family. Funny, then, that he was devastated when they found out what was going on and what a scum he was. He couldn't believe I would tell my family and embarrass him like that!

203 posted on 04/25/2003 4:15:53 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: An American In Dairyland
33 days. That's amazing! They hiked often, he was even picking up her child, they had a "romantic relationship, family all knew him...what else do we not know? In a span of 33 days, no less!
204 posted on 04/25/2003 4:19:56 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Jael
When Laci first went missing, and Scott called the police to report it, he wouldn't coperate even then.

Well, on top of that, SP was not the one to call the police to report her missing! It was her step-father Ron who did that.

The other night on one of the programs or somewhere (it's all running together now, so I don't know where), I heard that SP didn't even call the Grantski house to say she was missing, but someone there called Laci's house to ask if Laci and SP could bring some whipping cream when they came over for dinner that night!

So not only did he not let the police in to look around, but he didn't call them, and he didn't call his in-laws either.

Wonder what the story would have been if he and Laci hadn't shown up for dinner that night with her family? Was he going to just call them and say Laci wasn't feeling well? Or what? He would have had hours more time to do stuff then.

205 posted on 04/25/2003 4:21:47 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: runningbear
I think this case caught the attention of the Pres. ;o)

Gee, we haven't heard much from the "you're-wasting-bandwidth" crowd, lately.

206 posted on 04/25/2003 4:22:34 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: runningbear; All
In 2001 they bought their first house in the quiet Covena Avenue neighborhood

Don't let 'em confuse you, folks. It was October 4, 2000 when they bought the house.

207 posted on 04/25/2003 4:26:46 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: CheneyChick
>>Amber did not talk to Laci on the 23rd.<< [according to Papa Frey]

But the news report said Amber phoned the Peterson home on December 23 and Laci answered the phone.

Phone records can tell the police where a call originated from and whether it was completed (that is, the phone was answered.) But phone records cannot tell *who* answered the phone.

This information that Laci was the one who answered the phone could only come from one of two people because the third person who was involved is dead. So this information that Laci answered the phone comes from either Scott or Amber. I doubt that it came from Scott for obvious reasons so that leaves Amber.

Note above Papa Frey doesn't say that Amber did not place a phone call to the Peterson home. He only says that Amber did not "talk to Laci."

That would mean that Amber phoned the Peterson home, Laci picked up and said "Hello" and Amber either hung up or she remained silent while she hung on the line listening to Laci say hello over and again.

It was mere hours before Christmas Eve. There was every reason for Amber to logically suspect that the woman on Scott's phone could have been his visiting mother or a sister or a sister-in-law. According to Michelle Hart, Amber is a brazen gal so why wouldn't she have taken the chance and asked to speak to Scott?

IMO she didn't because she knew Scott was married.
208 posted on 04/25/2003 4:29:18 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: clouda
Thanks we do not have video access.
209 posted on 04/25/2003 4:31:49 PM PDT by oceanperch (Support Our Troops)
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To: runningbear
runningbear, did you know that the Modesto Bee is now charging a fee to be able to view the Laci Peterson photo gallery that they have? I find this kind of tacky unless of course the family happens to be the beneficiary of such.

BTW I would like to call attention to Laci's biological father and express my heartfelt sympathy also for his loss. The families thru their appearances have gained much natural condolences but if you notice, Dennis Rocha was unable to speak because of his emotion. I think that Laci was his only child.

210 posted on 04/25/2003 4:35:02 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: runningbear; proud_2_B_texasgal; MaggieMay; Sandylapper; The Boston Stranger; Devil_Anse; All
"Did you know that the leading cause of death in pregnant women is murder? Did you know that the VAST majority (don't have the figure) of the time, it is the spouse/boyfriend that is responsible."


"Among all murders of women across the country in 2000 - the most recent yearly statistics available from the U.S. Department of Justice - more than 33 percent were killed by an intimate partner"

http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=36368&section=NEWS&subsection=FOCUS_REGION_STATE&year=2003&month=4&day=25

DOJ...fair source...33% by intimate partner...Long way fron vast majority....But I HATE statistics. And I know this is not pregnant women it's all women. Still a long way from vast majority. I remember when we started here every one was saying here and Experts on tv 77% of all women murdered were murdered by spouse or boyfriend. Been hearing that from femanatzies for decades it seems. When only about 1 in 4 are ever solved,so I am told, how can anyone say who did or didn't do the other 75%. Unsolved crimes are not statistically tracable as to perpetrator. I HATE STATISTICS...:-)

I am still waiting for CERTAIN CONNECTIVE evidence it is assumed that MPD has, especially since they now say they think she was strangled according to NE. NO blood in large or small amts so far...vomit on mop proves she vomited, crap in stool proves she crapped. Exclusionary as to time and cause...IMHO... Apparent marks on chair, B/S evidence of the you say I say type....He punched her(Geez all this nuance pointing to violence and pain purely speculation and irresponsible) Laci suffered...How do you know that for sure. I say she didn't....Prove it to me;noway...We are sitting here betting on a O-7 record for murdered Women in last 2 years,the MPD....Ya'll know how I feel, but without connective evidence of a certain nature...IMHO...no Death Penalty yet..

In addition After the Mouser Prosecutarial misconduct a matter of record the defense might be given wide latitude in questioning MPD and Stanislaus county Procedure and expert testimony preparation.

I know we are not in court yet but the constitution we live by is, as Jonna Philor(s)says in her article, or should be our guide. I know how everybody feels, pent up anger over laci, and scott's behavior,I share that. BUT I read NE article over an over last night and when I finally finished, I said Yep, sure could have happened that way, or a thousand other ways...Exclusionary except for Marina ticket thanks to Scott...as far as we know so far.....;-0)
211 posted on 04/25/2003 4:35:03 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: alexandria
Amy is Dennis's daughter, by his 2nd wife or relationship, after Sharon.

Even last night, I think it was Ted Rowlands who got it wrong--on LKL, he was saying something incorrect about the family relationships and I would have thought if anyone had figured it out it would be Ted!

Brent and Laci were brother and sister, children of Dennis and Sharon.

They divorced, then Amy came along later.

That's why Sharon was able to say Laci was her only daughter the other day, though people were commenting that it must have upset Amy, but she's not Sharon's daughter.

Now the Peterson clan, that's a whole other kettle of fish, and even more complicated...
212 posted on 04/25/2003 4:47:45 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: alexandria
Aren't Amy & Brent Rocha the children of Dennis Rocha as well (having a different mom than Laci)? I thought that Laci's mom said that Laci was her only daughter in that news conference.
213 posted on 04/25/2003 4:51:38 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Sandylapper
It's not illegal in the state of Texas. The state only recognizes a person at birth. There's more to it than just criminal classification as far as that goes. Here Scott would not be subject to a Capital Murder charge unless he murdered her while in the commission of another felony. Kidnapping her, forcibly removing her from her home would be considered while in the commission of another felony.

And while I do understand your point, we should all now be subject to Federal Law? Most law crafted at the hand of liberals? That's not the way the Constitution was written. OTOH, there are some who consider the US Consitution a pesky out of date piece of paper.
214 posted on 04/25/2003 4:52:27 PM PDT by Jaded (Close the BORDERS and the CHECKBOOK!! (schpelin iz opshenul))
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To: texasbluebell
Ooops - thanks for clearing it up. Of course Brent is Sharon's son.....
215 posted on 04/25/2003 4:54:28 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: uvular
LOL... humm visioning a pink tutu.. and away snotty drove off, 'hi' I'm Jackie...it is a family thing'...;o)
216 posted on 04/25/2003 4:54:53 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: alexandria
Wasn't Amy his daughter?
217 posted on 04/25/2003 4:56:01 PM PDT by Jaded (Close the BORDERS and the CHECKBOOK!! (schpelin iz opshenul))
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To: RGSpincich
golly I was hunting down the vin on the dodge, found it I think... mind at ease now..lol...
218 posted on 04/25/2003 4:56:03 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Sandylapper
Yes it was, and hopefully in Conn, the laws are different for protecting the unborn.
219 posted on 04/25/2003 4:56:53 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: RGSpincich
Oh, I have been surfing alot today, and tired of the pc, and listening to the demo yeah whose, on MSNBC, Matthews, Press, etc... trying to slam Bush... Chris at one point just butted in to shut them up. I think he said something like, this is my show... ;o) Yep, this is national politics now... always was...
220 posted on 04/25/2003 5:00:29 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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