Bush Edges Clinton, Tops All Comers In New York, But Most Voters Say She Should Stay In The Senate

Quinnipiac ^ | 4/24/03

[areafiftyone]

If New York Sen. Hillary Clinton challenged President George W. Bush in 2004, the not-so-native daughter would be on the short side of a 47 -- 44 percent split among New York voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Sen. Clinton has a 52 -- 36 percent approval rating and New York voters say 59 -- 37 percent that she should not run for President next year.

President Bush has a 58 -- 37 percent approval in New York, up from 50 -- 44 percent in a February 12 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.

"That a president fresh off a wartime win would poll higher than most wannabes isn't surprising. What will surprise many is that President Bush does so well against Sen. Clinton," said Maurice Carroll director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

"In 2000, Bush was so far behind in New York, he didn't even bother to campaign here.

"Meanwhile, New Yorkers want Hillary to stay home. They'd rather have her call Chappaqua home than to try going back to Pennsylvania Avenue."

Bush is ahead of other leaders in the Democratic Presidential pack:

• 50 -- 38 percent over Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman;
• 50 -- 38 percent over Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry;
• 49 -- 38 percent over Missouri Congressman Richard Gephardt.

As a result of the war in Iraq, 31 percent of New York State voters say they are more likely to vote for Bush for reelection, with 28 percent saying they are less likely and 38 percent saying their position hasn't changed.

New York's senior Senator, Charles Schumer, has a 59 -- 22 percent approval rating, including 54 -- 31 percent among Republicans.

From April 15 - 21, Quinnipiac University surveyed 885 New York State registered voters, with a margin of error of +/- 3.3 percent.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and nationwide as a public service and for research.

2. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Charles Schumer is handling his job as United States Senator?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Approve	59	54	66	57	58	60	64
Disapprove	22	31	16	23	26	18	25
DK/NA	19	15	17	20	16	21	11
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Approve	51	58	56	63	59
Disapprove	27	20	21	22	23
DK/NA	22	23	22	15	17
3. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Hillary Rodham Clinton is handling her job as United States Senator?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Approve	52	31	72	46	50	54	53
Disapprove	36	61	18	42	41	32	35
DK/NA	12	8	11	12	9	14	12
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Approve	42	49	48	59	48
Disapprove	47	40	42	28	40
DK/NA	11	10	10	13	11
4. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W.Bush is handling his job as President?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Approve	58	91	38	56	60	57	59
Disapprove	37	7	56	40	35	39	38
DK/NA	4	1	5	4	4	4	3
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Approve	68	65	66	46	66
Disapprove	27	32	31	50	29
DK/NA	5	3	3	5	5
9. Suppose the general election for president were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Rodham Clinton the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican for whom would you vote?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Clinton	44	7	72	39	37	50	47
Bush	47	90	16	49	52	42	44
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	2	-	3	3	3	2	2
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	2	-	2	3	2	1	2
DK/NA	5	3	6	6	6	5	6
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Clinton	26	34	33	61	35
Bush	63	55	57	29	58
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	4	2	2	2	1
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	1	1	1	2	1
DK/NA	5	7	7	5	4
10. Suppose the general election for president were being held today, and the candidates were Joe Lieberman the Democrat and George W.Bush the Republican for whom would you vote?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Lieberman	38	6	66	34	34	41	45
Bush	50	88	23	47	54	46	43
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	2	-	2	5	4	1	2
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	2	1	3	3	2	2	4
DK/NA	8	5	5	11	6	10	6
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Lieberman	21	28	26	54	33
Bush	68	56	59	35	57
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	3	3	3	2	1
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	-	2	1	3	3
DK/NA	8	12	11	6	6
11. Suppose the general election for president were being held today, and the candidates were John Kerry the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican for whom would you vote?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Kerry	38	4	65	35	36	40	42
Bush	50	92	21	49	53	46	43
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	1	-	1	2	2	1	2
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	1	1	1	2	2	1	1
DK/NA	10	3	12	12	8	13	12
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Kerry	22	28	27	55	30
Bush	65	59	60	32	60
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	2	1	2	1	1
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	-	-	-	1	3
DK/NA	10	11	11	11	8
12. Suppose the general election for president were being held today, and the candidates were Dick Gephardt the Democrat and George W. Bush the Republican for whom would you vote?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Gephardt	38	5	67	33	37	39	42
Bush	49	90	20	48	52	46	45
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	2	1	1	3	2	2	2
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	2	-	2	4	2	2	2
DK/NA	9	3	10	11	7	11	10
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Gephardt	23	27	26	53	34
Bush	64	58	60	32	57
SMONE ELSE(VOL)	3	3	3	2	1
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL)	2	2	2	2	2
DK/NA	8	10	10	11	6
13. As a result of the war with Iraq, are you now more likely to support George W. Bush for a second term as President, less likely to support him for a second term, or hasn't the war changed your feeling on that?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
More likely	31	54	14	30	35	26	27
Less likely	28	7	40	32	25	30	33
Hasn't changed	38	37	39	37	34	40	40
DK/NA	4	2	7	1	5	3	1
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
More likely	27	35	33	21	42
Less likely	20	25	24	38	18
Hasn't changed	49	35	38	37	38
DK/NA	4	5	5	4	2
14. Would you like to see Hillary Rodham Clinton run for President in 2004 or not?
							Union
	Tot	Rep	Dem	Ind	Men	Wom	HsHolds
Yes	37	11	55	32	29	43	38
No	59	85	40	62	65	54	59
DK/NA	4	4	5	5	5	3	3
	UpState.............		UpState
	Urban	Othr	Total	NYC	Sub
Yes	23	29	27	51	30
No	74	67	69	44	66
DK/NA	3	4	4	5	5

[areafiftyone]

New York is a very sorry state.

Don't I know it! Very Scary!

[Illbay]

That's why I don't believe they ever voted for Bush in the first place, the great majority of 'em. Their attitude is far, far too "C3PO" (Conservative Third Party Oddball) for them to have voted for "the Shrub" in 2000, with the prevailing attitude they showed here in the run-up to election.

[Illbay]

These aren't Republicans. They're NEW YORK Republicans.

[areafiftyone]

AHEM! There are alot of New York Republicans on Free Republic (I am one of them!) and they are not like that! I have never voted for a Democreep and never will! I don't know who they are polling!

[Illbay]

... they are not like that!

NONE of them? Giuliani (with deference to his leadership after 9/11) wasn't like that? D'Amato wasn't like that? Jacob Javits wasn't like that?

[areafiftyone]

Are you finished bashing New York?

[Illbay]

I'm not "bashing" New York.

Are you really going to sit there and say that "New York Republican" doesn't have a specific cachet?

[areafiftyone]

Well we should hear from more of them - I am pinging them as we speak! I know I am not like that!

[Illbay]

I'll bet you could come up with a few thousand that aren't.

And tens of thousands that are.

Or maybe they're in the minority, but able to get elected with Dem votes.

I just keep thinking about the Conservative party, etc., the third parties in NY state that seem to siphon off the right-wing voters.

[BreitbartSentMe]

The really interesting news in this poll is the Union Household numbers. Across the board, as I scanned it briefly, it seemed to mirror the average figures. This is in the face of the conventional wisdom about union votes tilting heavily to the democrats, no matter the candidate. What most people don't realize is that nowadays, union households are about 40% republican, if I remember right. (I call us closet republicans, we're working on our secret handshake) The general membership is getting pretty fed up with being beaten over the head constantly with "support the democrats" and are just tuning it out. This puts all the states with high union membership up for grabs, not a lock for the dems anymore.

[katnip]

I'm from NYC (now living in the suburbs) and I'm a Republican and have always voted Republican.

In fact, I can remember the day JFK won the Presidential election and my Irish Catholic mother cried her heart out in misery over it.

We've got an awful lot to do to woo people to the party here, but we've got to keep upbeat and optimistic.

[areafiftyone]

LOL - you know if no New York Freepers besides me respond you just may prove your point! ;-)

[areafiftyone]

We've got an awful lot to do to woo people to the party here, but we've got to keep upbeat and optimistic

I agree!

[dalebert]

I don't think Hillary can pull anything but NYC(maybe).

[RedBloodedAmerican]

In fact, I can remember the day JFK won the Presidential election and my Irish Catholic mother cried her heart out in misery over it.

That is amazing, considering the high number of Irish Catholics that support the Kennedys in the NE States. Good for her!

[lasereye]

Look for a landslide in 2004!

That's the only way he'll carry NY.

[katnip]

Good for her!

She despised the Kennedys. Unfortunately, it seems the older she gets the more liberal leaning she's becoming.

[montag813]

Who cares about Hillary. She is not running in '04. FOCUS ON SCHUMER!!! He MUST be defeated.

[F16Fighter]

If New York Sen. Hillary Clinton challenged President George W. Bush in 2004, the not-so-native daughter would be on the short side of a 47 -- 44 percent split among New York voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This wouldn't exactly be a landslide for Dubya.

And where exactly are they polling these New Yawkahs?? Outside a meth clinic??

[webstersII]

"Bush is too well liked -- regardless of the economy -- to have much of a chance of losing against these uninspiiring potential opponents the dems have put up."

Don't be too sure. The 2004 race is eons away, politically speaking, and the worst thing that the Bush camp could do is get complacent. If the economy doesn't turn around by next year the war may be a distant memory.