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Microbiologist: SARS now attacking intestines
The Sydney Morning Herald (SMH.com.au) ^
| April 23, 2003
| DPA
Posted on 04/22/2003 7:49:22 AM PDT by EternalHope
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To: hgro
That might be hard to do. Damn near everything is made in China these days.
To: Trust but Verify
Drink black or green tea. 5 cups a day will do it. Chinese drink more tea than that. :-)
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:44:46 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: EternalHope
"Professor Peiris"Poor guy's name looks like an unfortunate typo.
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:47:45 AM PDT
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: billorites; CathyRyan; Mother Abigail; Dog Gone; Petronski; per loin; riri; flutters; ...
To: shadowman99
Your point about virulence being inversely related to the risk of a pandemic is reassuring.
I needed that. ;^)
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:51:10 AM PDT
by
headsonpikes
(Help me decide: Is the Left morally corrupt and intellectually bankrupt, or vice versa?)
To: mabelkitty
Are you not reading the stories? This virus is killing normally those most expected to survive - young people in their 20s and 30s.
This virus is not going to walk past those who go to the gym everyday - on the contrary it looks like a perfect killer, especially if it gets to the point where it attacks organs directly.
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:51:55 AM PDT
by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: kinghorse
buy gold
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:52:16 AM PDT
by
Cicero5
To: txzman
The Hong Kong figures show a very low death rate for people under 35, a moderately low death rate for people between 35 and 55, and increasing death rates for people older than that.
To: EternalHope
How can the doctors tell if it is the SARS virus itself to blame, and not some other opportunistic infection that sets in? China is one incredible germhole.
To: txzman
Maybe this will get Asians to finally learn some manners and stop coughing and sneezing on everyone - because they do that, without covering their mouths, and they hork all over the sidewalk.
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:55:27 AM PDT
by
IvanT
To: KansasConservative1
Hence, you cannot cure the common cold with a Z-Pack. Isn't zithromax an anti-viral med? My Dr gave it to me when I had the flu. The anti-viral's may not be as dependable or work the same way as antibiotics, but we do use them.
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posted on
04/22/2003 8:59:02 AM PDT
by
Dianna
To: mabelkitty
Very interesting concept!!
There are natural anti-virals out there, but most people just don't know about them. It takes lots of reading, digging and an open mind.
g
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:01:25 AM PDT
by
Geezerette
(... but young at heart!-)
To: Dianna
I was mistaken. Zithromax is an antibiotic. Nevermind :)
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:01:35 AM PDT
by
Dianna
To: kinghorse
Man made plague. There is zero evidence for that.
If you wish to believe it as a matter of religious conviction, be my guest.
This is a Coronavirus. They mutate constantly, that is why we have never been able to develop a vaccine for the common cold. This one is more lethal than any in memory, but given the hundreds of new varients that appear every year, it was inevitable.
There has never been any indication that any nation was incompetent enough to use a Coronavirus as the precursor of a bioweapon, precisely because it mutates wildly.
There is no way you can hope to vaccinate and protect your own troops and population.
So9
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:05:55 AM PDT
by
Servant of the Nine
(We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
To: OK
Good for you!! Apparently you have read about the work of the Israeli virologist who developed Sambucol from elderberry extract! A few FReepers have commented on it with very good results!
Another one is Oil of Oregano. Not the Mexican sage that is passed off as seasoning and called "oregano". This is the more expensive wild mountain-grown oregano from the Mediterranean.
g
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:08:31 AM PDT
by
Geezerette
(... but young at heart!-)
To: shadowman99
In the book "The Hot Zone", Robert Preston makes the point that "Ebola does in ten days what it takes HIV ten years to accomplish" - but - The virus has a hard time spreading because the victims usually die before contact with numerous people.If I remember the book correctly, Robert Preston explained why a really hideous disease could not spread too far. Such a virus is too efficient. It kills of its host before the host has much contact with others. Very often, for the disease to spread very far, it would become less lethal.
He also brought out the problem with plane travel. Take a plane full of people who become infected on the way from Africa to Rome, for instance. Those people then get on other planes. Within one day, that virus could spread all over the world.
My concern, which doesn't seem to get an answer, is what happens if SARS starts spreading in countries where health and sanitary services have been affected by war? What if this thing gets into refugee camps? What if soldiers get it? Will they be quarantined where they are? If this were to start spreading in Afghanistan and Iraq, what could possibly be done?
I really hope someone has contingency plans if this did occur.
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:14:57 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: Servant of the Nine
There has never been any indication that any nation was incompetent enough to use a Coronavirus as the precursor of a bioweapon, precisely because it mutates wildly. There is no way you can hope to vaccinate and protect your own troops and population. You still might be willing to use it if you're in a Goetterdaemmerung mood, as Hitler was in April 1945.
To: EternalHope
Or maybe someone released a "new and improved" version.
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:21:17 AM PDT
by
dljordan
To: Frank_Discussion
So we should chuck suspected cases in the autoclave?
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posted on
04/22/2003 9:23:04 AM PDT
by
dljordan
To: KansasConservative1
It is my understanding that Antibiotics have no effect on viruses anyway. Correct. Simple reason - virii aren't alive; that is, they don't respire; that is, they don't take anything (including antibiotics) in from the environment. They don't do anything at all until they come in contact with a glycoprotein trigger on the surface of a cell, then they inject the infective agent - DNA or RNA - into the target cell.
About all you can do is sensitize the immune system to build antibodies faster than the virii can replicate. Inoculation does that by building a cell line already active against a particular antigen. Pumping up the mechanism of the immune system also helps - Vitamin C, for starters, and a host of other things. All antibiotics will do is protect the body from a secondary, bacterial infection.
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