[Tall_Texan]

I thrink the shroud has been thoroughly debunked. It's an interesting item no doubt but it's dubious authenticity does nothing to prove or disprove the historical record of Jesus, nor of His resurrection.

You can still be a confident born-again, Bible-believing Christian without the Shroud of Turin.

If you need the Shroud to reinforce your faith, your faith isn't very solid to begin with.

[green team 1999]

well,i get to listen to the show for enterteinment,but is a good subject for tonight.

[Romulus]

If you need the Shroud to reinforce your faith, your faith isn't very solid to begin with.

One could say the same about the Bible.

[First Amendment]

I thrink the shroud has been thoroughly debunked.

(I know you mean "think"!) From what I have read, the main debunking is because of carbon 14 dating or whatever kind they use. There's a very interesting book "Forbidden Archeology/Hidden History of the Human Race" that goes into dating methods and their innacuracies. Apparently those radiocative methods of dating are ultra sensitive (lots of variables can screw them up) and not very reliable.

[EternalHope]

I think the shroud has been thoroughly debunked.

Why do you say that?

The carbon 14 dating cast doubt for several years, but the results are now much better understood. They could even be said to confirm a date in the first century.

I agree with your comment about the shroud not being necessary to faith, but I still think it is absolutely fascinating.

[Radioactive]

I thrink the shroud has been thoroughly debunked. It's an interesting item no doubt but it's dubious authenticity does nothing to prove or disprove the historical record of Jesus, nor of His resurrection.

I thrink? It has not been debunked. You are mistaken. The scientific evidence is not all in yet. The process in which this shroud has been created has not been able to be duplicated even with today's advanced technology.

There has been much study on this and so far, no one has been able to agree on how this thing was made.

Most people do not depend on the shroud to reinforce their faith.

It's just good to know that there is some evidence that what was written is true.

[Dataman]

I thrink the shroud has been thoroughly debunked.

Thoroughly? No opponent can explain it or reproduce it. The only thing they have going for them is a controversial dating method with which there is not unanimity.

[RightOnline]

"I thrink the shroud has been thoroughly debunked."

No, it hasn't. As a friend of the leader of the original STURP research team and as one who has posted a couple of lengthy threads here on his briefings, I think I'm qualified to talk about it a bit more.

[Clintons a commie]

The C-14 tests do not in and of themselves discredit the Turin Shroud. Every other test performed shows that the Shroud is not a painting, contains Human DNA, Type A/B Blood of a male primate, etc. It is not reproducable even with modern technology.
I believe that the Shroud's C-14 dating was flawed, as do many scientists(including one of the C-14 specialists, Harry Gove). Two books to look for on Amazon are THE BLOOD AND THE SHROUD by Ian Wilson, and another book called THE DNA OF GOD. Both are excellent, and give detailed information on why authenticity is still a more reasonable position than medieval fraud.