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Bush's top cultural adviser steps down over looting of Iraqi museum
AFP ^ | Apr. 17, 2003

Posted on 04/17/2003 10:45:31 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Martin Sullivan, the head of President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s cultural advisory committee, stepped down this week in protest over the United States failing to stop the looting of Baghdad's museum.

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In a letter to Bush dated Monday, Sullivan said he was resigning as chairman of the President's Advisory Committee on Cultural Property, a position he had held since 1995.

"The reports in recent days about the looting of Iraq (news - web sites)'s National Museum of Antiquities and the destruction of countless artifacts that document the cradle of Western civilization have troubled me deeply, a feeling that is shared by many other Americans," he wrote.

Calling the looting a "tragedy," Sullivan said that it was not prevented "due to our nation's inaction.

The 11-member committee is made up of experts and professionals in the art world who are appointed to three-year terms.

Two are museum representatives, two are experts in archaeology and ethnology, three are specialists in worldwide art trade and four others are designated based on their areas of expertise.

A source close to the committee told AFP on condition of anonymity that another committee member, Gary Vikan, was also stepping down.

Sullivan serves as executive director of the Historic Saint Mary's City Commission, dedicated to one of the first British colonies, in the state of Maryland. Vikan is director of the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore, Maryland.

Baghdad's museum, which housed one of the world's great collections of artifacts from early Mesopotamian civilizations, was ransacked by looters on Friday in the upheaval following US troops' entry into the city.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday that the United States was offering rewards for the return of items from the museum, or assistance in their recovery.

But critics have faulted US forces for failing to intervene in the extensive pillaging of the capital and other Iraqi cities after President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s regime collapsed.

Likening the looting to a post-football game riot, Rumsfeld said Tuesday: "No one likes it. No one allows it. It happens and it is unfortunate, and to the extent it can be stopped, it should be stopped."

"To the extent it happens in a war zone, it's difficult to stop," he added.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: antiquities; looting; martinsullivan
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To: sinkspur
Well, the facts are that 100+ Americans are dead. There is no evidence of either WMD's or NBC's and there is no hope whatsoever that Iraq is about to turn into the Arab version of Switzerland.

Oh... and $80 Billion are now missing from our treasury, out of which $10 Billion are headed toward Israel's treasury.
41 posted on 04/17/2003 11:13:49 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: CaptRon
Considering the year of his appointment I would say this was more than just a little politically movitvated.

Don' worry, so is A Vast RightWing Conspirator's post. He is a Bush hater plan and simple. He has been a member of FR for a while, but I suspect he is just a malcontent that doesn't like anything the government does.

A Vast RightWing Conspirator is hardly Right-wing in any regard (see below)...

On the war...
"Let's face it people, our president just wasted 100+ American lives and $80 billion of OUR money and got absolutely nothing in return."
Link

On looting...
I'm sure Rumsfeld explained away the L.A. riots as natural expressions of freedom and liberty
Link

On Bush...
He's doing more damage to us, as a country and as a nation, that Clinton could have ever dreamed it was possible or that Gore would have been allowed by the legislative branch.
Link


42 posted on 04/17/2003 11:13:54 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
. But, even if it was, did Franks know for a fact that NOTHING OF VALUE was in those museums. Of course he didn't

It ain't his job to care. It was the job of the curators to secure them before the war started.
43 posted on 04/17/2003 11:14:26 AM PDT by CaptainJustice (Dangerous Jesus Lover)
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Buddy, you're giving a perfectly good conspiracy a bad name.
44 posted on 04/17/2003 11:14:26 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
There's even an op ed piece in today's Washington Post, by Jim Hoagland, suggesting that it was an inside job: Victims of Civic Passivity.
45 posted on 04/17/2003 11:14:30 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: CaptainJustice
1000's of murdered and tortured children, millions of Iraqis under a cruel terrorist regime isnt worth 100 american lives?

Absolutely not.

46 posted on 04/17/2003 11:14:32 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Of course this is not true.

Of course it IS true. You didn't read the link in #17, did you?

ART EXPERTS are saying that this was a professional job, and that the looting was likely a cover.

47 posted on 04/17/2003 11:15:05 AM PDT by sinkspur
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In one possibly encouraging sign, several people in the Al Awi neighborhood that surrounds the museum said they did not see looters leave with any antiquities, even amid gun battles and looting that lasted two days.

An imam who lives behind the museum said he stood outside the museum for several hours on the first day of the looting, begging them to stop. "I kept reminding them that this is their country and it was against Islam to steal," said the imam, who asked not to be identified.

But he said the only items from the collection he saw stolen were several old rifles. Mostly, he said, he saw looters take chairs, typewriters, ceiling lamp fixtures and other items from the museum's offices


48 posted on 04/17/2003 11:15:23 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Is this what counts? Don't you understand? These destroyed artifacts are lost for ever. The harm can not be undone. It doesn't matter if one million Baath members and Bill Clinton die of slow torture. It will not bring back what is now lost.

What's the name of the beer you're crying in?

49 posted on 04/17/2003 11:15:51 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
out of which $10 Billion are headed toward Israel's treasury.

AH...here's the agenda. Anti-Israel sentiments. What's next A Vast RightWing Conspirator, NWO?

Get your tin-foil hat. Then, shut your pie-hole!

50 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:08 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Im so sick of hearing about this museum.
51 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:30 AM PDT by smith288 (Visit my gallery http://www.ejsmithweb.com/fr/hollywood/hollywood.php)
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To: Jarhead_22
What would have been the upside of using US troops as riot control police in Baghdad?

Again, they did protect the Oil Ministry building.

52 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:36 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
The problem is that evidence is emerging that this may have been an inside job. These people knew the war was about to start; they had plenty to get their treasures to safety. I agree with you that this is tragic; but I just don't think we need to jump to the conclusion that the US could be faulted for not offering more protection.
53 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Publius6961
Regardless of who was to blame, this is a loss of articles that are connected to the earliest years of human history.
54 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:49 AM PDT by meenie
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Hmmmm.  I think Mr. Sullivan jumped ship before all the data points were known.
55 posted on 04/17/2003 11:16:53 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Peace through Strength)
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Imagine how we felt if the Smithsonian was allowed to be looted and we lost the original copy of the Constitution.

The original copies of the Constitution and the Declaration Of Independence have been stored at the National Archives since 1953. Before that, they were stored at the Library of Congress.

Aside from the copy stored at NARA, about 20 other copies dating back to the Convention are known to exist in various American and British collections, mostly in those of state governments and universities.

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the location of our national treasures before you self-explode in indignation about the questionable circumstances and losses at the Baghdad Museum. There are plenty of FR threads on this subject with some excellent research which raise serious questions about who was responsible, and whether these artifacts were actually present in the museum at the time of the "looting."

56 posted on 04/17/2003 11:17:40 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
You absolutely refuse to place blame on the people who are responsible: the looters.

Instead, here you are with yet another attack on the administration and the military.

It is the OIL FIELDS which were protected. Those were obvious choices of sabotage.

Try and think of it this way: if we had been held under a tyrannical rule here in the United States, say under a President Hillary, and the Italians and the Brits came to liberate us, would the first thing they would think about is that the people of the USA would loot the SMithsonian? Of course not!

My personal opinion is that most of tha valuable stuff was stolen in an inside job (since according to museum security protocol it was all supposed to be in vaults when the war started...this was in Archaeological Review) and the actual looting by the population was of office furniture, etc.

Pretty amazing that those looters had the sense to take not only the artifacts but the documents that went with them. I say again, inside job, and looting of this facility was not to be expected, given the comparison I gave you.

57 posted on 04/17/2003 11:17:50 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: mattdono
Did Israel get $10 billion in aid? I'm sure you know the answer. Which may help you clarify 'the agenda', if you want to call it that way.

Sorry guys and gals, I have more important things to attend at this time - work being one of them :)

58 posted on 04/17/2003 11:18:20 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Well, the facts are that 100+ Americans are dead. There is no evidence of either WMD's or NBC's and there is no hope whatsoever that Iraq is about to turn into the Arab version of Switzerland.

I can see it doesn't matter to you that Saddam Hussein is gone, and stories are emerging that he behaved much as Hitler did.

You have no idea what Iraq will look like and are simply engaged in wishful thinking because you hate Bush.

You're so transparent it's pathetic.

59 posted on 04/17/2003 11:18:23 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: browardchad
Hear. Hear.
60 posted on 04/17/2003 11:18:30 AM PDT by mattdono
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