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Clerics claim control of Iraq's holy cities
Japan Today ^ | Thursday, April 17, 2003 at 07:25 JST

Posted on 04/16/2003 9:31:55 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

NAJAF, Iraq — In this holiest of Muslim Shiite cities, clerics are running a self-declared government. It's the same in nearby Karbala, another sacred Shiite city.

Muslim Shiite clerics have in the past week moved swiftly to fill the power void created by Saddam Hussein's ouster — appointing governors, imposing curfews, offering protection, jobs, health care and giving financial assistance to the needy.

In some respects, they have replaced Saddam as Iraq's new leadership.

Ominously, they distrust the Americans who rid them of Saddam's tyranny and have little faith in the opposition leaders now returning to Iraq from years in exile. They also question whether Western democratic values are suited for their country.

And, they seem unwilling to surrender authority to a central government they don't like.

Shiites make up 60% of Iraq's 24 million people, but have traditionally been pushed to the political sidelines by members of Islam's mainstream Sunni sect, of which Saddam is a member. They have long complained of religious persecution under Saddam and erupted in jubilation at his downfall, practicing their rituals in public for the first time in years.

Scores of Shiite pilgrims can now be seen walking on highways and country roads to Najaf and Karbala, carrying the black flags that mourn the 7th century "martyrdom" of al-Hussein, one of the sect's most revered saints. Al-Hussein's shrine is in Karbala, while his father, Imam Ali, son-in-law of Islam's Prophet Muhammad, is buried in Najaf.

Such instant Shiite empowerment could reverberate in an Iraq whose social and political fabric is fragile in the aftermath of war and the removal of a president whose iron-fist policies held the country together. It also could provoke a Sunni backlash or spark inter-Shiite violence when the sect's factions are vying for position in a new order.

In today's Iraq, the power of the "al-Hawza al-Ilmiya" — an Arabic phrase that roughly means the supreme seat of Shiite learning — is second only to that of U.S. forces. It is something of a magic phrase that has become associated with authority or government.

Sheik Abbas al-Rabia'i, a 42-year-old Shiite cleric who has just come out of four years in hiding from Saddam's fearsome security apparatus, is a hard-line cleric with blind loyalty to the al-Hawza al-Ilmiya.

Squatting on the floor of a tiny house on a back alley in Najaf, he said the al-Hawza would be prepared to surrender power to a government the people approve of, but hastened to add: "It must be a government that has been freely elected and is not under any foreign influence."

"We don't say anything or do anything without the approval of the al-Hawza. We are only foot soldiers," said al-Rabia'i.

The extent of al-Hawza's influence is perhaps best manifested by orders it issued this week. Posted on the outer wall of Karbala's al-Hussein Mosque, one of the holiest Shiite shrines, it orders the city's Shiites not to organize marches without its prior approval and bans anyone from joining a political party without its permission.

"It's absolutely forbidden to speak to news agencies," says another order. "When something happens, don't act. Wait for instructions from al-Hawza," says another.

Sheik Mohanad al-Assadi is a 28-year-old Shiite scholar in Karbala. On Wednesday, he met with Youssef al-Haboubi, the long-serving civil servant appointed governor of Karbala by the al-Hawza this week, to discuss city affairs. Before him, he conferred with a doctor, police officers and ordinary people who sought his help to find jobs. He has bodyguards, a precaution after two senior clerics were killed by an angry crowd in Najaf last week.

"Al-Hawza is not contemplating the permanent assumption of executive power through it own members," he explains in a soft voice at the Spartan al-Mokheim Mosque in Karbala. "We have those whom we trust to do this for us."

Assadi used diplomatic language to express his views on Iraq's opposition returnees, saying that while senior Shiite clerics appreciated their efforts, "justice" must be done for those who stayed in Iraq and endured Saddam's oppression.

Al-Rabia'i was more blunt.

He said many Iraqis would be uncomfortable with the rule of politicians who had spent decades abroad. "Many of them want to introduce Western democratic systems that don't suit us here. We have a people here who suffered so much for so long they cannot accept imported ideas."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: clerics; interimauthority; postwariraq; powerstruggle
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1 posted on 04/16/2003 9:31:56 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
It begins.




2 posted on 04/16/2003 9:43:29 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Dear People of Iraq:

You have just been freed from one tyrant, do you really want to submit to another? If not, you must stand up to these people. We can't do it for you, this one you have to do yourselves.

We can only offer you freedom, the rest is up to you. Look to the east and see what the people of Iran are suffering, that will be your future if you don't get this under control.

3 posted on 04/16/2003 9:46:38 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Sabertooth; Stavka2
That it does--and now they will fight for men and causes which they respect and love.

This is why many said we went into Iraq lean.

4 posted on 04/16/2003 9:48:06 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Sabertooth
What they are doing may be necessary to keep some kind of order until interim government can be created. Even then, they should have a part. The trick will be in keeping some sort of secularism in place in the 'constitution' of Iraq. I don't know if these people can or want to be governed in isolation from their religion. The religionists in America don't seem to want to be.
5 posted on 04/16/2003 9:49:09 PM PDT by gcruse (The F word, N word, C word: We're well on our way to spelling 'France.')
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To: Sabertooth; Stavka2
That it does--and now they will fight for men and causes which they respect and love.

This is why many said we went into Iraq lean. - by lean I mean we had few troops that could stay behind and occupy the grounds while the spearhead moved up.

6 posted on 04/16/2003 9:50:34 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Interim authority will be helpful; but military force may be required to see to it that women and "infidels" get to vote.
7 posted on 04/16/2003 9:59:13 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: thinktwice
Does anyone know why Diogenesis hasn't posted a Gotta See This today?

Is that normal?
8 posted on 04/16/2003 10:00:22 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: thinktwice
Well.....there you go. I posted that to the wrong thread.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS. (sorry)

(I still wouldn't mind it if someone answered, after they pick themselves up off the floor from laughing at me)
9 posted on 04/16/2003 10:01:21 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Now lets start talking about the real war, Muslims vs. The World. The only good thing I have to say about Saddam is he kept some of the radical Muslims at bay.
I wonder if Islam, the way it is currently interpreted, is compatible with democracy. I don't think it is without a reformation.
10 posted on 04/16/2003 10:01:35 PM PDT by DeepInEnemyTerritory
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To: DeaconBenjamin
"Ominously, they distrust the Americans who rid them of Saddam's tyranny and have little faith in the opposition leaders now returning to Iraq from years in exile. They also question whether Western democratic values are suited for their country."

These two sentences capsulize the mindset of Islam - ALL OVER THE WORLD.

(Even in the United States - especially regarding "Western democratic values.")

11 posted on 04/16/2003 10:02:09 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
No problem here ... it's nice to hear from somebody .. my posts don't usually get responses ... (grin).
12 posted on 04/16/2003 10:04:12 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: thinktwice
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Thanks. I needed that.
13 posted on 04/16/2003 10:05:14 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: McGavin999
If an Islamic theocracy takes hold in Iraq they will be no better off than they were under Hussien. I hope they have the sense to see this.
14 posted on 04/16/2003 10:07:24 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Brad's Gramma
"Does anyone know why Diogenesis hasn't posted a Gotta See This today?"

I haven't seen it either. I am anxious to see the 123 people rescued from the dungeon.

15 posted on 04/16/2003 10:08:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: Sabertooth
"Sheik Mohanad al-Assadi is a 28-year-old Shiite scholar in Karbala. On Wednesday, he met with Youssef al-Haboubi, the long-serving civil servant appointed governor of Karbala by the al-Hawza this week, to discuss city affairs. Before him, he conferred with a doctor, police officers and ordinary people who sought his help to find jobs. He has bodyguards, a precaution after two senior clerics were killed by an angry crowd in Najaf last week."

If these people hack to pieces in broad daylight with thousands of witnesses in THEIR HOLIEST OF HOLY MOSQUES one of THEIR OWN KIND (an Islamic religious leader), where does that leave the American G.I. standing out on the street corner risking his life for these same people's personal liberty?

Anyone?

16 posted on 04/16/2003 10:08:03 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: McGavin999
"Look to the east and see what the people of Iran are suffering, that will be your future if you don't get this under control."

Do you really believe these wretched souls know or even care to know the horrendous failures of the Islamic (terror) government to their East in Iran?

Many of them have been waiting for this moment, and not for the sake of being released into freedom, but for the sake of imposing their Islamic nightmare on the populace at large.

This will be a "war within a war."

17 posted on 04/16/2003 10:10:54 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: blam
Thanks, Blam. I did a search on him today in case I'd missed it, but so far, nothin'.

And yes, to see those pictures....wow....
18 posted on 04/16/2003 10:11:00 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Mebbe Dio is taking a break after liberating Iraq?

#:>)

19 posted on 04/16/2003 10:11:55 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Happy2BMe
If these people hack to pieces in broad daylight with thousands of witnesses in THEIR HOLIEST OF HOLY MOSQUES one of THEIR OWN KIND (an Islamic religious leader), where does that leave the American G.I. standing out on the street corner risking his life for these same people's personal liberty?

Just click your heels together and say, "Islam means peace," and every fantasy will come true.




20 posted on 04/16/2003 10:12:04 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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