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To: Paul C. Jesup
I simply do not understand these emotional defense of a broadbased DC-centric tax regime be it flat or national sales tax. The national sales tax will favor cheaper imports over more expensive home grown items so I think its perfectly reasonable for a conservative to support an income tax.

As I lean libertarian, the end in mind, the radical reduction in the size and scope of government, the flat tax as a concept (with the repeal of the 1944 withholding tax) paid in full once a year will have a more dramatic impact toward that end, then slowly paying for big government over the course of a year.

Case in point: .40 cents of every gallon of gas is tax; who needs gasoline more, the SUV driver on the way to soccer practice or the landscape company?

End result, business of the more local kind is punished at the local level to support the DC regime.

A suggestion to my NST friends, and I am listening (hope you are checking in on us, chiefnegotiator) is to focus on the political end in mind. Ending the 'IRS' may put some bad people out of work, but I have bigger goals in mind.

135 posted on 04/17/2003 10:33:44 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Class of '98)
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To: JohnGalt
John Galt, I've watched your posts and see that you don't yet fully understand any of the sales tax bills. I am pleased, however, that your questions and concerns can be discusses.

The national sales tax will favor cheaper imports over more expensive home grown items...

Again, you have it exactly backwards. In fact, home grown items will enjoy a tremendous benefit under an nrst.

1) home-grown items' prices could be reduced by 25% due to the elimination of all income taxes and 95% of compliance costs - and will be exported WITHOUT the sales tax added onto the price

2) imports will have the 23% tax added onto the price when sold here

So you have it wrong.

137 posted on 04/17/2003 10:47:02 AM PDT by Principled
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To: JohnGalt
Why do you support the IRS?

This is a real simple question, so it should be easy to answer.

148 posted on 04/17/2003 11:31:00 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: JohnGalt

The national sales tax will favor cheaper imports over more expensive home grown items

Wrong. There will be no hidden taxes embedded in American made products. The NRST strips out the cost of embedded taxes in products. Most imported products have embedded taxes in them.

As I lean libertarian, the end in mind, the radical reduction in the size and scope of government

Got it. I'm not a libertarian but I have read and understand the libertarian platform.

A suggestion to my NST friends, and I am listening (hope you are checking in on us, chiefnegotiator) is to focus on the political end in mind. Ending the 'IRS' may put some bad people out of work, but I have bigger goals in mind.

The flat tax involves government initiation of force and or threat of force -- "report your income and pay the tax or we'll fine you and put you in prison". It also requires every person to report to the government how much income they make. That's an open door for the government to snoop around in people private financial affairs.

With the NRST if a person doesn't want to pay the tax they can choose to not buy the item -- and they can still get a check every month to cover the tax up to the poverty level. And since no person has to report their income to the government the government has no tax incentive to snoop around in a person's private financial affairs. No doubt if chiefnegotiator is looking in, he now has a reason to cast a happy smile.

Apparently the bigger goals you have in mind include the government prying into people's private financial affairs and the government initiating force and threat of force against people. Have you read the Libertarian platform?

157 posted on 04/17/2003 11:59:03 AM PDT by Zon
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