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Actor Robbins Says US Now Viewed as 'Rogue State'
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/16/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 04/16/2003 3:35:41 AM PDT by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins said Tuesday that "it is time to get angry" over the Bush administration's alleged reprisals against opponents of the war.

Robbins told an audience at the National Press Club that the Bush administration has taken advantage of the American people and squandered the good will the world had recently developed toward the U.S.

"In the 19 months since 9/11, we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred," he claimed. "Basic inalienable rights, due process, the sanctity of the home have been quickly compromised in a climate of fear.

"A unified American public has grown bitterly divided," Robbins continued, "and a world population that had profound sympathy and support for us has grown contemptuous and distrustful, viewing us as we once viewed the Soviet Union, as a rogue state."

The actor-activist accused the Bush administration and other supporters of the war of a campaign of intimidation to silence those who disagree with them.

"A message is being sent through the White House and its allies in talk radio...[that] if you oppose this administration, there can and will be ramifications," Robbins claimed. "Every day, the airwaves are filled with warnings, veiled and unveiled threats, spewed invective and hatred directed at any voice of dissent."

Robbins also accused the American media of colluding with the U.S. government to conceal the consequences of the war against Saddam Hussein.

"Unlike the rest of the world, our news coverage of this war remains sanitized, without a glimpse of the blood and gore inflicted upon our soldiers or the women and children in Iraq," Robbins charged. "We are told it would be pornographic. We want no part of reality in real life."

He complimented the professionalism and achievements of the American military and challenged the argument that one cannot oppose the war while supporting the troops.

"Our ability to disagree and our inherent right to question our leaders and criticize their actions define who we are," Robbins argued. "To allow those rights to be taken away out of fear, to punish people for their beliefs, to limit access in the news media to differing opinions is to acknowledge our democracy's defeat."

Robbins called on those who agree or disagree with his anti-war stance to rise up against what he deems false patriotism.

"In this time when a citizenry applauds the liberation of a country as it lives in fear of its own freedom...when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce," he continued. "Any instance of intimidation to free speech should be battled against. Any acquiescence to intimidation at this point will only lead to more intimidation."

War in Iraq Said to Be 'Trial Run' for 'World Military Dictator'

Thomas Andrews, who appeared with Robbins, now heads Win Without War, a coalition of some 40 groups including the NAACP, the National Council of Churches, the Sierra Club and the National Organization of Women.

He said Tuesday that the coalition opposed the war because it was "unnecessary, illegal and would leave our nation and our world less secure.

"Despite the much-touted successes of the military invasion," Andrews argued, "the costs and risks of this war remain enormous, and there is no reason to believe the U.S. is any more secure now than it was before."

The Maine Democrat and former U.S. representative from that state said he also fears that the Bush White House was merely "testing the waters" with the attack on Saddam Hussein's dictatorship.

"The U.S. war against Iraq is in many ways a trial run to establish what this administration calls a 'new norm' in international relations," Andrews said. "The Bush administration is pursuing a vision in which the U.S. is not only the world's policeman, but also the world's military dictator, answerable only to itself."

Andrews believes that the pre-emptive strike against Iraq will not have the desired effect of deterring other nations from developing weapons of mass destruction or selling them to terrorists.

"So-called rogue states could very likely conclude that they had better develop nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction immediately, or they'll be vulnerable to a United States preventive war," he concluded.

The war against Iraq had little to do with stopping terrorism, Andrews claimed, and may - in his opinion - fuel more attacks on the U.S.

"As expected, the war has caused an upsurge in anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and around the world," he argued.

"Al Qaeda was created and became empowered by the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia following the first Gulf War," Andrews continued. "What new networks will be spawned in reaction to the U.S. presence in Iraq?"

Bush Approval Ratings Rise as Statues of Saddam Fall

Newsweek.com reported Tuesday that President Bush's approval rating with the American public had risen 18 points in the past month to 71 percent.

"Bush gets strong marks for his handling of the war in Iraq and the larger war on terrorism, with 74 and 78 percent approving of his efforts in those areas respectively," Jennifer Barrett wrote for the newsmagazine's website.

"And a full 93 percent of those surveyed say they believe U.S. military efforts in Iraq have gone very well (73 percent) or somewhat well (20 percent) so far."

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"We want no part in reality"

this from a guy who makes his fortunes by playing make believe
and pretend.

"the Bush administration has taken advantage of the American people and squandered the good will the world had recently developed toward the U.S."

What "good will"? we were cowardly attacked, people felt a bit of sympathy for us as long as we didn't strike back. All of our enemies quietly celebrated and continue/d to plot against us. Tim Robbins YOU ARE A FOOL.
Sounds like he's been sleeping with Michael Moore instead of Susan.
101 posted on 04/16/2003 6:59:07 AM PDT by labowski
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To: Kevin Curry
"In this time when a citizenry applauds the liberation of a country as it lives in fear of its own freedom...when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce," he continued

Gee I wonder if he's getting talking points from the NOW gang hags?

102 posted on 04/16/2003 7:00:04 AM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Marysecretary
OK, TigersEye, can you tell me the difference between a democracy and a republic?

Yes, I can. A democracy is majority rule, the popular vote decides. A democracy has been described as two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. In a democracy if the majority votes that all the oil in Texas and Oklahoma belong to the whole country then that's the law.

We have a representative republic. Each state has a Senator/Senator's to represent it and House members whose number is based on its population to represent specific districts of a state. (This changed with the 17th Amendment which was never legally ratified. Senators used to be appointed by the state, now they are elected by popular vote.) We elect representatives to represent our interests. As legislators they vote on law not the people. We have electoral colleges so that regions have representation not population majorities. As a republic the foundation of law is our Constitution not current public sentiment.

The rule of law in a democracy is public sentiment. Today 99% of the people may want murder outlawed, so be it. Tomorrow 99% of the people may want murder legalized, so be it. The rule of law in a constitutional republic is the constitution, it may be changed but only (in theory) by the rules of the constitution.

That's probably a rather rough sketch but I'm sure someone will polish it up with a good whack to the back of my head here in a minute. ;^)

103 posted on 04/16/2003 7:06:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrats are soooo 9/10)
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To: kattracks
Did Tim Robbins just receive an audit notice from the IRS?
104 posted on 04/16/2003 7:11:30 AM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: kattracks
Naah.

Tim Robbins is a "rogue actor"!!!
105 posted on 04/16/2003 7:14:15 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: kattracks
Whatta nut... he's got Chomsky Syndrome.
106 posted on 04/16/2003 7:15:33 AM PDT by Anamensis (New axis of evil: Syria, Ithaca, Hollywood)
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To: TigersEye
Thanks, TigersEye. I copied it onto my computer for future reference. I appreciate that. Mxxx
107 posted on 04/16/2003 7:15:39 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: TN4Liberty
I think it is the 7% that Robbins represents who are bitter.

As far as Robbins is concerned, it's the 7% he represents who MATTER.

108 posted on 04/16/2003 7:17:08 AM PDT by Anamensis (New axis of evil: Syria, Ithaca, Hollywood)
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To: laker_dad
I saw Fox News play with this idiot's puke all night. It was great. It did make me ponder the idea of Robbins having been hired by CNN to attack Fox News.
109 posted on 04/16/2003 7:25:56 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: kattracks
Yes, Timmie, you have the right to question our leaders and state your opinions. However, you must be man enough to take the consequences of giving voice to your irrational thoughts. If you suffer from what you've said, it's because of the public's ability to discern fact from emotional babble. The backlash you are experiencing is a direct result of the disdain thinking people have for you.

Also, don't flatter yourself - you're not on this administration's agenda. They have important things to do.
110 posted on 04/16/2003 7:27:14 AM PDT by luvtheconstitution
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To: kattracks
Starry-eyed Susan the Red
Lured Saddam Hussein to her bed.
But when she went out
To powder her snout
He buggered Tim Robbins instead.
111 posted on 04/16/2003 7:28:33 AM PDT by Dionysius
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To: Marysecretary
You're welcome. I hope it's enough to give you a challenging rebuttal to those leftists you're arguing with. Most of them are so locked in to their dogma that all the facts and logic in the world wouldn't phase them.
112 posted on 04/16/2003 7:29:25 AM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrats are soooo 9/10)
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To: Marysecretary
OK, TigersEye, can you tell me the difference between a democracy and a republic? I need to know so I can answer folks when they say we're a democracy. I love to be contentious with these lefties up here but I need some information to be lucid when I talk with them.

In my experience, all you have to do is say "We are not a democracy. We are a democratic, Constitutional republic." Then just look at them. They're usually just blown away. They stand there with their mouths agape, blinking rapidly. Even people with Ph.D.'s have been stopped cold when I say this. Because once you actually say it aloud, they realize this is true. A republic is simply a government headed by a president, whose elected representatives govern.

On the off chance that they demand clarification, I am prepared to tell them, "Democracy is just the process by which we vote. Without inalienable rights, democracy is five rapists and one woman voting on the evening's entertainment."

113 posted on 04/16/2003 7:32:50 AM PDT by Anamensis (New axis of evil: Syria, Ithaca, Hollywood)
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To: Pern
Actors are not "artists", they have a product to sell - themselves. If a company like GM came out against the war then they could reasonably expect to have patriotic citizens refusing to buy their products. The same applies to actors - citizens can refuse to buy their performances (products). However, if Mr. Robbins wants to put some "skin in the game" and truly be listened to and followed then he needs to run for office.
114 posted on 04/16/2003 7:33:13 AM PDT by databoss
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To: dougherty
Remember though, Gibson's character in Conspiracy Theory was right though. This guy is just screwy. They keep forgetting that freedom of speech protects you from government repercussions; it doesn't require that the people you badmouth be forced to support you.
116 posted on 04/16/2003 7:39:09 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: kattracks
I am not sure who is more pathetic, this idiot, or his empty-headed consort, Susan Sarandunce. They must operate without management, because any agent or management company worth a damn would have tackled them long before this.

With the prevalence of conservative outlets (Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox, sites like FR), this will not die, and these vain, self-righteous maggots will feel it in the wallet like they can't believe. Everyone I talk to has sworn off anything these two have to do with. Many of them will be watching for news of who is producing, distibuting, airing or sponsoring the "entertainment" they appear in or are associated with.

Free speech remains free, but it has and always will carry with it consequences from a pissed off buying public.

117 posted on 04/16/2003 7:39:24 AM PDT by Zebra
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To: Dionysius
Oh my, that was sheer art!! My only suggestion would be, to keep the meter flowing, that you only need Saddam's first name. Check it out:

Starry-eyed Susan the Red
Lured Saddam to her bed.
But when she went out
To powder her snout
He buggered Tim Robbins instead.

Okay, I just wanted the excuse to post it again. I think I'm going to print it out and put it on my fridge.

118 posted on 04/16/2003 7:39:32 AM PDT by Anamensis (New axis of evil: Syria, Ithaca, Hollywood)
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To: kattracks
"A unified American public has grown bitterly divided,"

I heard this comment on the radio on my way home from work. It was one of those moments that you sit there and repeat the comment over and over in your mind trying to figure out what hell it actually means. A UNIFIED public is divided???? Huh?!
119 posted on 04/16/2003 7:40:32 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: laz17
"This guy is punk, nothing more. He thinks he's tough, threatening to beat up reporters, but a real man could reduce him to a crying little girl with one arm tied behind his back."

Beat up reporters, eh? Tough guy, huh? What I would not pay for some quality time alone with Timmy.
120 posted on 04/16/2003 7:42:26 AM PDT by Search4Truth (Stupid is as stupid does.)
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