***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 23 - LIVE THREAD***

Everywhere! | 11 APR 03 | An.American.Expatriate

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[Consort]

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I don't know, Miss M., Sean's gone a little over the top, too. I think it's a control issue. Some seem to need to run the war, rather than trust those in charge. Some think that finding fault is honorable in wartime. I suggested that Sean spend some time with Ollie. I don't think he got the message. (^: When real heroes are on TV daily, puffed up pundits and pols and generals appear rather silly, imho.

 

Col. Robert Woods, Jr., Memorial for fallen soldiers, Ft. Bliss, TX: "It is a tradition that is honorable... All of us know that life in our Army is both rewarding and very challenging, day in and day out."  Boots, helmets, rifles and ID tags displayed here today....that is part of the tradition. We salute who we respect. We should salute them for their sense of duty...in a cause that was necessary and difficult...for the respect they had for one another, on and off the battlefield....for their integrity..for staying sincere until their very end...and last, but not least we should salute them for their courage... God bless our loved ones, their families and their friends. Hoo-ah!"

 

Five members of the 507th are still being held as POWs.

[Miss Marple]

This memorial service, with its clunky piano and earnest singing is the face of America. I am tearing up.

[retrokitten]

Rummy pics!

Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3

[Carolina]

Here's a concise history of the Kurds/Turks conflict [ABC News caveat]:

Kurds Fight for Homeland

Q :   What is the legal status of Kurds in Turkey?
A :   Kurds are not recognized as a minority — unlike Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians and Jews. Recognized minorities have the right to teach in their respective languages.

Q :   What rights do Kurds have in Turkey?
A :   A ban imposed by Turkey’s last military government on the use of Kurdish in unofficial settings was lifted in 1991, but Kurdish is illegal in broadcasts, educational or political settings. A court case to ban Turkey’s main pro-Kurdish party is under way.

Q :   When did the Kurdish independence movements begin?
A :   Kurds were promised a homeland in the 1920 Treaty of Sevres, which carved up Turkey after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey, fought to regain the land, destroying plans for a Kurdish state. There have been numerous Kurdish revolts since.

Q :   When was the Kurdish Workers Party, or PKK, created and what are its aims?
A :   The PKK was established in 1978 and turned to armed struggle in 1984. Originally fighting for independence, the group now says it aims for an autonomous Kurdish state or a federation with Turkey.

Q :   What’s the toll of the conflict?
A :   Close to 37,000 people have died. The PKK has waged a guerrilla war in the southeastern mountains and carried out attacks in western Turkey and Europe.

The Marxist sites that I visited support the PKK.

[Consort]

Vice President Cheney just voted in the Senate to break a tie vote on the Republican budget.

[Consort]

Cheney presiding on C-SPAN2.

[Mo1]

Vice President Cheney just voted in the Senate to break a tie vote on the Republican budget.

ALRIGHT CHENEY!!!

[DollyCali]

Sounds like Uday may have had a teenage duaghter with the pink etc.. that would be my guess

[retrokitten]

He didn't have any kids.

[retrokitten]

The following American military personnel have either been captured or are missing during Operation Iraqi Freedom as of 4 p.m. EDT Friday:

DUTY STATUS WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN

March 23:

Army Sgt. Edward J. Anguiano, 24, of Brownsville, Texas. Missing after his convoy was ambushed in Iraq. Assigned to the 3rd Combat Support Battalion out of Fort Stewart, Ga.

Marine Sgt. Brendon Reiss, 23, of Casper, Wyo. Last seen when his unit was engaged in combat operations in the vicinity of Nasiriyah. Assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade.

— Marines missing after being engaged in operations in the outskirts of Nasiriyah in Iraq:

Marine Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, 21, of Buffalo, N.Y. Assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, of Waterford, Conn. Assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Marine Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline, Jr., 21, of Washoe, Nev. Assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Marine Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, 30, of Decatur, Ill. Assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Marine Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, 19, of Boiling Springs, S.C. Assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

PRISONERS OF WAR

March 24:

— Apache pilots, captured after helicopter downed during a mission:

Army Chief Warrant Officer 2 Ronald D. Young, Jr., 26, of Lithia Springs, Ga.

Army Chief Warrant Officer 2 David S. Williams, 30, of Orlando, Fla.

March 23:

— Members of the 507th Maintenance Company stationed at Fort Bliss, Texas, captured after Iraqi forces ambushed an Army supply convoy around Nasiriyah:

Army Spc. Edgar Hernandez, 21, of Mission, Texas, 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Army Spc. Joseph Hudson, 23, of Alamogordo, N.M., 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Army Spc. Shoshana Johnson, 30, of Fort Bliss, Texas, 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Army Pfc. Patrick Miller, 23, of Park City, Kan., 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Army Sgt. James Riley, 31, of Pennsauken, N.J., 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

[Nam Vet]

You are correct, the PKK is Marxist, the PUK is not. Per my Kurd corner grocer.

Nam Vet

[swheats]

I thought it was a new day for Russia. My thoughts continue to go back to the moment at Crawford High School. Maybe I'm naive but that day appeared to turn years of distrust and animosity into a viable working relationship.

Maybe Putin has changed, but the regime that he represents are still stuck in the Cold War era waiting for an opportunity to settle a few scores.

The old Europe mentality. And yes, he did choose poorly.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Bagpipes, Amazing Grace....sniff. Standing room only.

Americans are learning that such people exist - these clean-scrubbed, compassionate and courageous people - throughout our country. Americans won't soon forget.

[retrokitten]

My thoughts continue to go back to the moment at Crawford High School. Maybe I'm naive but that day appeared to turn years of distrust and animosity into a viable working relationship.

It wasn't just you who felt that way. I think of that, too.

[Carolina]

You are correct, the PKK is Marxist, the PUK is not. Per my Kurd corner grocer.

I feel like I need a decontamination bath after visiting those sites. LOL! But am learning about the continual repression of the Kurds by their neighbors. And the bitter rivalry between the PKK, PUK, and KDP.

[Trust but Verify]

I think GW had the wool pulled over his eyes by the former KGB man from Russia. I hope he has learned to trust, but verify. And I'm glad he has Condi on his team.

[Dog]

Something I have noticed watching the looters..

Why are the Iraqi's pushing an out of gas car or truck up to the building they are looting .....then loading it up with their booty....then pushing it back home.

Wouldn't it be easier to loot some gas first??

[Carolina]

It is my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that the peshmerga fighters are of the PUK.

[Consort]

PKK