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To: TLBSHOW
Trust me, its here forever.
6 posted on 04/09/2003 8:31:20 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Trust me, its here forever.

Just like TIA and TIPS ... whoops, those got nuked. What is done can also be undone - and, with sunset provisions, it won't take an override of a presidential veto to eventually get rid of these provisons - hence the need to not allow this action of making the Patriot Act permanent to happen.

8 posted on 04/09/2003 8:34:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (Rally For America - Steps of PA State Capitol, Harrisburg - March 29 at high noon)
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To: Wolfie
Trust me it can be stopped and will be stopped!

looks like this story is being told across the US today and more are coming...

Add-ons Stall Terror Bill
Debate goes beyond lone-suspect issue

Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) has circulated one amendment that would eliminate the sunset provision in the anti-terror Patriot Act that passed in the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and greatly expanded the government's law enforcement powers.

Hatch wants to eliminate the law's Dec. 31, 2005, expiration date, a move that some civil liberties groups contend would embolden the Justice Department in its use of the sweeping anti-terror law.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ussena093214085apr09,0,3864424.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

.......

GOP wants to keep anti-terror powers
Broad spying tools would become permanent


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/04/09/MN257910.DTL

11 posted on 04/09/2003 8:38:18 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Wolfie
Right! When the myriad police agencies get expanded powers they never let go. They always describe these powers as "tools" and complain that they just can't do their jobs without the extra power. Do you feel safer now? I doubt it. No matter how many "tools" they get they are still bureaucracies and as such are inherently inefficient. The best and brightest don't rise to the top in these agencies only the clever and ruthless.
322 posted on 04/10/2003 7:50:10 AM PDT by dljordan
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