[Dane]

Careful, you're treading dangerously close to gun-grabber rhetoric there

What gungrabber rhetoric???? Please if you want to live in the 18th century where jets as weapons were not possible, that's fine with me. That's your right as an American.

But please don't use the late 20th century invention called the internet to prosthylitize your rhetoric like the islamic fascists.

[jmc813]

You're statement was ...

keep all our rights as proscribed by the Founders without the limitations of their 18th century physical world

I was simply pointing out that many liberals claim that the second amendment only covers muskets and arms that were available in those days, and they could not have imagined, let's say for instance, semi-auto pistols.

We seem to be drifting from the original article. We obviously disagree on the Patriot Act in general, but the article dealt with the sunset clause. With it intact, we can use the Patriot Act to fight terrorism today, and then if it is no longer necessary in the future, we can get rid of it. I don't see why you would oppose this set-up.