[Dane]

Wrong. I believe there is a threat. I believe that we are doing the right thing with Iraq. I don't believe that we need the Patriot Act to combat either issue.

I do believe that we need to close the borders. I do believe that we need to roll back most, if not all, of what Clinton did to this country. I do believe that we should withdraw from the UN. I believe we should kick the UN out of our country. I believe that we should not surrender any of our rights or sovereignty (individually and as a country) to any government.

That includes our own.

Wow, all in a nice little wrapped "message" where you hit all the "hot" buttons.

Sorry to burst your and jmc813's bubble but your above italicized message has been implemented. Bush has made the UN irrelevant without the use of your hyperbole. You all can't handle the reality of today, IMO, but that is your right and problem. Also, IMO, you and jmc have a problem of defending the Libertarian platform of totally open borders(i.e no passports, letting anybody cross the border at will with no question), you all are so transparent.

[Abundy]

I'll let you in on a dirty secret...I'm not a libertarian.

I'm a true conservative Republican.

Before you retort you'd better go study your history and law so that you can actually understand what qualifies one as "conservative" and "republican"...

[jmc813]

Also, IMO, you and jmc have a problem of defending the Libertarian platform of totally open borders(i.e no passports, letting anybody cross the border at will with no question), you all are so transparent.

If neither of us are members of the Libertarian Party, why should we defend it?