Patriot Act To Be Made Permanent? (Trial balloon to gauge the public reaction?)

sierratimes ^ | 4/8/2003 | J.J. Johnson

[dirtboy]

At least the other posters who critcize me do so with intelligent argument and discourse.

They overestimated their audience. I think Abundy's closer to the proper level of discourse.

[jmc813]

Because thats clearly whats happening now and I don't see anyone complaining.

Take a look at this thread and tell me people aren't complaining.

[jmc813]

You really need to post more often.

[Freedom2specul8]

The erosion of our 2nd amendment rights, is worth fighting against.

[michaelje]

Just because you are resigned to defeat and therefore have decided that you like the fantasy of a boot on your throat

I cant help but to LOL at your illustration. Just for clarification, your wrong, but definitly funny.

[Freedom2specul8]

Hey, stop talking about privacy..it's a thing of the past! :)

[eBelasco]

See my post #125. 30 yrs ago, power still corrupted. Not any more.

Wait a second, you're being sarcastic! LOL.

[freeeee]

Thanks, I mostly lurk now but sometimes I just can't hold my tongue.

Some of the people posting around here scare me more than the most wide eyed Democrats ever did. Let's hope they learn something while they're here.

[Abundy]

If you have nothing to hide, what do you have to fear??

Mike - I've got nothing to hide - and that means that the Constitution was written for me, by me to protect me. To argue that I should piss away all those limits imposed on Govenment power to keep it as uncorrupt as possible just because I'm law-abiding is patently stupid. I've never bumped into you before - others on this thread know me personally and know my credentials. They might surprise you. But then a jackboot like you wouldn't care anyway.

Dane - I've been watching your discussion regarding the Patriot Act and I will respond civilly. You are dead wrong. The entire premise of our government is one of limitation of power because power always corrupts. The document that sets up our govenrment is intended to restrict the lowest common denominator, the worst of the worst, should they get into office somehow. ANY legislation that is premised on lawful use of power by a good and benevolent head of state or congress should never be made law. Period.

[Freedom2specul8]

Bump to long lasting freeperonlinesupportourbillofrightsfriendships...

[wku man]

You are 100% right, bro. I have more use for conservative Rats, like Zell Miller and, uh...well, Zell Miller, than I do with RINOs like Hatch, Specter, McCommie, Chafee, Snowe, Collins, and so on. Any Pubbie who would sign on to something as blatantly unconstitutional as the "Patriot" Act or CFR is no better than Dasch-hole, Kennedy, Hilldebitch, etc. I just wish more people realized this, and quit voting McCommie, et al, back into office.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[Abundy]

I'd bet that if a majority of Anmericans voted to force you to become a sperm depository for half the incarcerated Americans you'd be singing a different tune....

Grow up pal. At least the other posters who critcize me do so with intelligent argument and discourse.

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What, you don't like my comparison? That's something in which we lawyers excel. I pointed out to you that you would take a different view if a majority of Americans voted away a number of your civil rights...

What's wrong, can't admit you are wrong?

Of course you can't.

[thepitts]

Did anyone bother to check out michaelje's FR page?

Staunchly pro-life and pro-gun. Enjoy the politics of economics and world affairs. Believe the terms liberal and American are not synonymous. Distrust the biased media and police.

And the answer to my question, I will assume, is yes.

[Dane]

With all due respect, I believe you are in a state of clinical denial. You have absolutely REFUSED to acknowledge the possibility of liberals being in charge in the future. I beg of you never to forget 1993-2001

And I think you are in denial of the character of the people who now run the government.

I haven't forgotten 1993-2001, character actually matters now, and people of good charcater are now running the War on Terrorism.

[Abundy]

Check #172.

Interesting how the bootlickers don't mind postulating that if a law passes we should all obey it - regardless of how said law infringes on civil rights.

That is until the law is targeted at the bootlickers' civil rights...then their constitutional analysis changes drastically.

[Bella_Bru]

Its marginally significant that any politician would use the Patriot Act to shut down Freerepublic. This site mainly backs our government anyway, I rarely see dissention and if I do, its usually a libertarian.

The right to dissent is one of the rights that makes this country what it is. I do not want to live in a country like communist China, the former Soviet Union, Iraq, et al., where dissention is not allowed. Living while being forced to agree with EVERYTHING the government does is not living.

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

I would certianly fight to my death to protect my right to keep and bear arms, and my right to say, "I do not agree with my government". To do any less is to say the U.S. should bever have been created and that we should still be a British colony.

[thepitts]

I haven't forgotten 1993-2001, character actually matters now, and people of good charcater are now running the War on Terrorism.

Dane, with all due respect, isn't that rather short sighted?

[B Knotts]

It is extremely ironic that we are debating this, and some FReepers are actually defending this idea, on the very day when we are freeing Iraqis from a "security state."

I pray that we have the wisdom to avoid going down that road.

[truenospinzone]

Yep - that one made my homepage...

[B Knotts]

Are you suggesting that Democrats will never again control any part of government? That seems naive to me. They will someday have control, and the less tools we give them to abuse, the better.

We are supposed to be the ones in favor of limited government, aren't we?