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My poor poor uninformed niave friend ...

Yeah I know. I haven't got squat from either site. I was just putting that down to emphasize a point, i.e., that in the areas I'm searching, all the job postings are for engineers. And some pocket protector envy: I guess I never got over kicking myself in the arse for not going into eng. in the first place...

Don't feel bad ... I have advanced degrees in Electrical Engineering and 25 years experience .... and I was out all last year ... nearly lost everything I worked my whole life for. Sure can't make those mortgage payments on $7 an hour. Can't sell the house cause no one's buying and don't want to lose my equity by going into forclosure .... thank God I found a job ... I am one of the VERY lucky ones. I tried to get a low paying temp job ... forget it. I was told flat out that laid off high tech workers are not being hired ... cause the company knows that when things get better in high tech those workers will be gone. Starting a business takes capital and time ... money does NOT start coming in for quite awhile. In the meantime how does one make the mortgage ?