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To: cardinal4
I wonder what excuse the Moslems used for the 6th 7th and 8th centuries ?? In AD732 a murderous Muslim army was in France. The Moslems having already conquered Spain, North Africa, Egypt, Syria etc and were now moving into Western Europe intent on exterminating Christianity.

They were defeated at the battle of Tours by Charles Martel "the Hammer" a name given to him for err... Hammering the Moslems

They can not blame the USA as it would not be around for another 1000 years ... nor the Crusader as they were still 300 years in the future nor the British Empire, Western Imperialism nor any other garbage excuse the religion of Slaughter comes up with.

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/Tours.html

http://campus.northpark.edu/history/webchron/WestEurope/Tours.html

"A Moslem army, in a crusading search for land and the end of Christianity, after the conquest of Syria, Egypt, and North Africa, began to invade Western Europe under the leadership of Abd-er Rahman, governor of Spain. Abd-er Rahman led an infantry of 60,000 to 400,000 soldiers across the Western Pyrenees and toward the Loire River, but they were met just outside the city of Tours by Charles Martel, known as the Hammer, and the Frankish Army."

The Franks won .. does this count as a French victory? you have to go back a long way to find one!
16 posted on 04/04/2003 6:31:05 PM PST by protest1
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To: protest1
Charles Martel was called "The Hammer" because, I assume,
martel is the French word for hammer. I know in Italian that martello means hammer, so......
18 posted on 04/04/2003 8:00:06 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: protest1
From: CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Charles Martel

But at the extremity of the empire a dreadful storm was gathering. For several years the Moslems of Spain had been threatening Gaul. Banished thence in 721 by Duke Eudes, they had returned in 725 and penetrated as far as Burgundy, where they had destroyed Autun. Duke Eudes, unable to resist them, at length contented himself by negotiating with them, and to Othmar, one of their chiefs, he gave the hand of his daughter But this compromising alliance brought him into disfavour with Charles, who defeated him in 731, and the death of Othmar that same year again left Eudes at the mercy of Moslem enterprise. In 732 Abd-er-Rahman, Governor of Spain, crossed the Pyrenees at the head of an immense army, overcame Duke Eudes, and advanced as far as the Loire, pillaging and burning as he went. In October, 732, Charles met Abd-er-Rahman outside of Tours and defeated and slew him in a battle (the Battle of Poitiers) which must ever remain one of the great events in the history of the world, as upon its issue depended whether Christian Civilization should continue or Islam prevail throughout Europe. It was this battle, it is said, that gave Charles his name, Martel (Tudites) "The Hammer", because of the merciless way in which he smote the enemy.

 

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19 posted on 04/04/2003 8:01:05 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: protest1
How could I have forgotten Charles Martel? He was a hero's hero.
25 posted on 04/05/2003 2:48:36 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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