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I might have to pick up this book.
1 posted on 04/04/2003 5:36:22 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible; *Clash of Civilizatio
Excellent post.
2 posted on 04/04/2003 5:38:10 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: Incorrigible
Bump for a more in-depth later read.
3 posted on 04/04/2003 5:38:52 PM PST by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: Incorrigible
The arabs love to point ot the Crusades as the reason for their angst. While I accept that atrocities were commited in the name Christianity, they happened so long ago. Christians, and the Jews as well, evolved. The Muslims still adhere to medieval hatreds to justify their medieval violence.
5 posted on 04/04/2003 5:41:56 PM PST by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Incorrigible
It is the moslems who are on a crusade today.
6 posted on 04/04/2003 5:42:57 PM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Incorrigible
The Crusades were centuries ago in a far off land. The destruction of the Twin Towers was two years ago, in this land. Now, which of these events do liberals harp and harp about, and which of these events do liberals attempt to minimize and dismiss as historically irrelevant? Then liberals wonder why we consider them anti-American.
7 posted on 04/04/2003 5:43:48 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Incorrigible
I personally have never taxed a single brain cell feeling guilty about the Crusades. Trust Clinton to mischaracterize and screw it up. The Crusades were conducted to liberate the Holy Land from Islamic intruders: the Jews and Christians were there first. Rather than dwell on the Crusades, it wouldn't hurt to go back and read about the Battles of Lepanto and Poitoirs, the re-conquest of Granada by the Spanish and various and sundry other victories that the Europeans fought to keep Islam from overrunning their countries. This isn't exactly ancient history.
9 posted on 04/04/2003 5:50:14 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: Incorrigible
Madden isn't sure how we can accomplish that. But he is sure that we won't do it by refighting the Crusades.

As it was back in the middle ages, we may not have any other choice.

Sometimes the alternative to fighting is to become either a victim or a slave. I will be neither.

10 posted on 04/04/2003 5:51:04 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Incorrigible
This is great---thanks for posting it. I can't believe it appears under the byline of a writer for the Newark Star-Ledger, which I always thought to be unequivocally Dem/Lib.
And it's always nice to see yet another statement by the "brilliant" x42 completely discredited.
17 posted on 04/04/2003 7:48:30 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Incorrigible
I'm pretty sure the US played an insignificant role in the Crusades.
21 posted on 04/04/2003 8:26:23 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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Bump for the morning crew
23 posted on 04/05/2003 8:01:19 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible; BAMoretti

"I might have to pick up this book."

It took forever but I finally got the book from Amazon. They extended the ship date three times. Not sure which warehouse this book was hiding in but I'm looking forward to the reading.


26 posted on 05/28/2004 6:50:34 AM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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