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To: happygrl
Great thoughts, especially the one about Bush taking a big risk by trying to “modernize” the Arabs and the Mideast, thank you.

It seems that we are taking a huge risk with this Iraq war. GWB is trying to head off what is clearly developing into a clash of civilizations between Islam and Christianity. I believe his hope is that we can apply enough penicillin to the Iraq infection to avert a future catastrophe. If we can start the growth of open and democratic institutions in the Mideast in Iraq and if it spills over to Iran, Syria and even Saudi Arabia, then there is a possibility that this future clash of civilizations can be averted.

Unfortunately I am not optimistic. There just seems to be too many forces that are against this idea, all for their own selfish reasons. Frankly I have to admit when I watch Fox and see the pictures of our finest who have given the ultimate; it is easy to think it all a waste. I hope I am wrong.

72 posted on 04/01/2003 4:48:20 PM PST by schu
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To: schu
GWB is trying to head off what is clearly developing into a clash of civilizations between Islam and Christianity.

Yes, I agree with both your propositions. GWB is thinking "outside the box" and realizes that the only way to create peace in the ME is to nurture democracy. His model for that is the nurturance of constitutional democracies in Japan and Germany as we both know.

I believe the clash of civilizations is well underway, and on every continent, funded by our "friends" the Saudis. They are in South America, the Carribean, all throughtout Africa, Europe, Asia, the Pacific and Australia. And of course, in this country, using our own notions of freedom of speech and religion as a weapon against us. For these reasons I agree with your following statements:

Unfortunately I am not optimistic. There just seems to be too many forces that are against this idea, all for their own selfish reasons.

Frankly I have to admit when I watch Fox and see the pictures of our finest who have given the ultimate; it is easy to think it all a waste. I hope I am wrong.

I grieve for our finest as well. We must remember that the impetus for this war is also our own security, the mission to remove the weapons that threaten us from the region. A merciful component to the inhabitants of that region is the chance to develop democracies. If they fail to take advantage of the opportunity they are afforded at this time, any further threats from this region should, and will I hope, be met with devastating consequences.

74 posted on 04/02/2003 2:22:08 AM PST by happygrl
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To: schu
GWB is trying to head off what is clearly developing into a clash of civilizations between Islam and Christianity.

Yes, I agree with both your propositions. GWB is thinking "outside the box" and realizes that the only way to create peace in the ME is to nurture democracy. His model for that is the nurturance of constitutional democracies in Japan and Germany as we both know.

I believe the clash of civilizations is well underway, and on every continent, funded by our "friends" the Saudis. They are in South America, the Carribean, all throughtout Africa, Europe, Asia, the Pacific and Australia. And of course, in this country, using our own notions of freedom of speech and religion as a weapon against us. For these reasons I agree with your following statements:

Unfortunately I am not optimistic. There just seems to be too many forces that are against this idea, all for their own selfish reasons.

Frankly I have to admit when I watch Fox and see the pictures of our finest who have given the ultimate; it is easy to think it all a waste. I hope I am wrong.

I grieve for our finest as well. We must remember that the impetus for this war is also our own security, the mission to remove the weapons that threaten us from the region. A merciful component to the inhabitants of that region is the chance to develop democracies. If they fail to take advantage of the opportunity they are afforded at this time, any further threats from this region should, and will I hope, be met with devastating consequences.

75 posted on 04/02/2003 2:22:14 AM PST by happygrl
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