[mhking]

There is nobody dumb here, but there are a lot of lazy people here

This can't be said enough; and it needs to be said to the parents as much and as well as the kids. When I was in high school (mind you, an all black high school in Gary, IN), I was courted by Harvard, as were some other kids in my graduating class -- and they were serious.

I was more intent on engineering at the time (which they didn't have), but they got an honest look from me, at least.

Back to this situation, the kids are lazy, and the parents are equally lazy. They need a wake-up call....

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[Cincinatus' Wife]

Self esteem BS will never replace hard work. It's a monsterous hoax with devastating results.

[PGalt]

Thanks for all the work that you do. Does Project 21 sponsor some of the ads (education) I hear on the radio?

[elk]

I went to a predominantly black high school, in a relatively tough neighborhood, and Standford and other "top" schools were constantly hovering around our halls....No one wanted to say it, but the black students could write their own ticket with respect to these schools. I'm not saying that they didn't earn their ticket, in the respect that we had kids with 1400 SAT's, and hard courses/good grades. However, it appeared that the similarly situatied white students, especially, the males, were having a harder time getting into these schools. Can I prove this empirically? I dunno. (see The Center for Equal Opportunity studies on admissions into VA law schools -- and you decide). I would just end by saying that the world CAN be your oyster as a black student, IF you want it.

[Anamensis]

I am currently observing a very good high school in a small midwestern town, and the tracking issue comes up a lot. Just Wednesday, the teacher I'm observing pointed out a restless young black man with his hair braided in cornrows.

"Last year he was in Track II and got a B without hardly even trying. But he convinced the guidance counselor that he needed to be slipped down into Track III, because he knew it would be easier yet."

That's just... beyond sad, it's actually rather enraging. I want to grab this kid and smack him around, yelling "Why are you doing this to yourself and to our society??"

Suddenly I understand the day my mom whopped me one upside the head and said "Why do you make me beat you?!" LOL!

[hoosiermama]

I've said for years our schools don't have a decipline problem they have a "work ethic" problem. We're a typical southern rural Indiana school district. (not all black)

It's the attitude!

[stand watie]

YEP!

and their parents MUST get involved-- as OUR parents were.

FRee dixie,sw