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Understanding Islam And Its Radicals
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| November 11, 2001
| Ana Barrett
Posted on 03/27/2003 8:26:19 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: TLBSHOW
Tell me how on earth we would ever of won world war 2 if we allowed what we do with Islam to go on in this country?
TLB, WW2 has nothing to do with it.
Peaceful American Muslims are prtected by the Constitution. If they aren't hurting anyone then they are fully within their right's to worship whomever they choose.
What you offer as an answer is nothing more than religious oppression, on a massive scale. You want to validate Osama's message and oppress the very people we are supposed to be converting.. in the midst of the freeest nation in the world.
I do not see how your plan would help matters at all. It's based on a paranoid conspiracy theory that could just as easily be leveled at Jews or Christians tomorrow as it can at Peaceful American Muslims today.
I see no benefit to what you suggest and I actually see the potential for allot of harm.
Feelings like you posted are exactly the kind of things people like Osama exploit for crying out loud. You suggest "saving us" by becoming a slightly milder version of Osama himself.
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:45:33 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
(Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
To: Howlin
I'm beginning to think Jhoffa was right.
Beginning to think? What the ^%^^#$!
(/Bubble)
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:47:15 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
(Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
To: All
123
posted on
03/27/2003 5:47:52 PM PST
by
AnnaZ
To: justshe
In addition to this, it would validate every single word Osama ever uttered about this being a "War against Islam"
There's no need to give him or his words that kind of credibility.. He hasn't earned it.
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:48:59 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
(Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
To: Jhoffa_
Peaceful American Muslims are prtected by the Constitution. Aren't peaceful American Nazis and peaceful American Communists also protected by the Constitution? I'd rather have one of them as a neighbor ---especially if I was a Jew.
125
posted on
03/27/2003 5:49:08 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: FITZ
I don't know if there is such a list--would be interesting to find out.
But it has been an accepted fact, in this country, that Islam/Muslim is a religion.
You can punish/prosecute the crimes of those who practice this religion, but you cannot prosecute the religion, based on the 1st Amendment.
126
posted on
03/27/2003 5:49:49 PM PST
by
justshe
(FREE MIGUEL !)
To: justshe
You can punish/prosecute the crimes of those who practice this religion, but you cannot prosecute the religion, based on the 1st Amendment. I think that's probably true of everything ----good or bad. I guess the Davidian religion wasn't one of our government's recognized religions but I'm not sure what they did that was that much of a threat to anyone.
127
posted on
03/27/2003 5:51:33 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Jhoffa_
Standing ovation!!!!!
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:54:13 PM PST
by
justshe
(FREE MIGUEL !)
To: Jhoffa_
Well, I've only been comtemplating that one for a couple of hours!
129
posted on
03/27/2003 5:54:32 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Jhoffa_
That being said, "cult" would certainly describe this particular "problem," wouldn't it, right down to claiming one has a "gift."
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:55:53 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
Just for future refrence, I am always right..
Unless I am wrong, but in that event I will notify you in advance.
so there!
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:56:41 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
(Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
To: FITZ
And that, my friend, is why we have a Constitution. Even if we have seen some attempt the bastardization of that Constitution.
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:56:57 PM PST
by
justshe
(FREE MIGUEL !)
To: justshe
But it has been an accepted fact, in this country, that Islam/Muslim is a religion. I hope not the government though because according to the Constitution the government is NOT to establish religions. I guess individual people are free to do that or not.
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:58:26 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Jhoffa_
***There's no need to give him or his words that kind of credibility.. He hasn't earned it.***
I think you and I are in agreement.....the time to stop it is NOW. Prosecute the crimes, not the religion.
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posted on
03/27/2003 5:58:52 PM PST
by
justshe
(FREE MIGUEL !)
To: justshe
I think so, anything else would be counter productive.
135
posted on
03/27/2003 6:00:26 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
(Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is "Freepin for Zot!")
To: FITZ
I hope not the government though because according to the Constitution the government is NOT to establish religions. I guess individual people are free to do that or not. I think the establishment clause refers to a state religion, as the Anglican church was the state religion of Great Britain at one time.
In any case, I think as long as Islam is considered one of the major religions in the world, we're probably obligated to recognize it as a religion, whether or not we agree with it.
136
posted on
03/27/2003 6:17:12 PM PST
by
Amelia
(God bless our troops!)
To: Amelia
Bingo!
Thre are many things I do NOT agree with, with MANY religions. But I do not advocate the annihilation of all those who practice that religion. Therein is the point.
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posted on
03/27/2003 6:18:58 PM PST
by
justshe
(FREE MIGUEL !)
To: Amelia
I think the establishment clause refers to a state religion,I don't think the government is supposed to establish one or a few. I think it pretty much stays out of what is and isn't a religion --most of the time. If I want to start a religion of my own, and stand out on a street corner passing out flyers, I think I pretty much have that right. You can decide if my religion is just a cult or if you accept it as a religion. Even atheism or "no-religion" is recognized and protected under the Constitution.
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posted on
03/27/2003 6:22:49 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Amelia
What about Voodoo or Santeria? There might be quite a number of people who are followers of those.
139
posted on
03/27/2003 6:24:51 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: SauronOfMordor
"There will be no peace until Islam conquers, or is itself eliminated." Your view, while I am sure will draw you into one helluva "thing" with LG is, IMHO, the fact of life.
Pundits and apologists and the kumbayaa, "Can we all just get along crowd", on both the right and left just don't want to get it. The fact is that most of the world's religions teach their followers to spread their particular "truth". Islam carries it one step further. Convert or Kill.
There is no place in mideastern Islamic society for peaceful coexistence with non-Islamics. We certainly seem to continually want to ascribe our belief and faith structure to other societies. It could well be a fatal mistake.
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posted on
03/27/2003 6:29:44 PM PST
by
ImpBill
("You are either with US or against US!")
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