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To: Michael.SF.
"Well, there you go again. You you are really sounding more and more like a democrat. In that you stoop to insult (no, I did not flunk civics), you refuse to listen to reasonable opinions, which are contrary to your own, you think you are smarter then everyone else, and you have no logic to your arguments."

Wow. And on a Tuesday night...

Look, I'm just a little frustrated here that no one seems to have an appreciation for their rights as citizens, nor are they willing to support other citizens who assert their rights. And your having flunked civics was the only reason I could possibly imagine why you would be unaware of what your rights are. Maybe you just forgot. I really wasn't trying to be nasty, and I'm sorry if I offended you.

Now, you said: "Well Miss, then he should not complain when his refusal to do so causes a delay in his daily routine, should he?"

Yes, he should absolutely complain. The cops had no right to interrupt his daily routine and demand his I.D.

You asked: "Answer one question: At what point do you feel the cops were out of line in this story?

was it:
a) When they responded to the cal regarding a suspicious man?
b) was it when they asked for his ID?
c) was it when they waited for confirmation of who he said he was?"

It was somewhat after point b. They overstepped the bounds of the law (and thus became criminals) when they detained him for refusing to produce I.D.
186 posted on 03/25/2003 7:25:33 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Henrietta
Look, I'm just a little frustrated here that no one seems to have an appreciation for their rights as citizens, nor are they willing to support other citizens who assert their rights. And your having flunked civics was the only reason I could possibly imagine why you would be unaware of what your rights are. Maybe you just forgot. I really wasn't trying to be nasty, and I'm sorry if I offended you.

Apology accepted.

Now with cooler head prevaling, let me take another approach: There is an old saying, one you I am sure have heard. The rights of your fist stop, when it reaches my face.

The Police have a duty to protect us all. In doing so, they have to make judgements, and judgements are prone to human error. So how does a cop judge somebody, having met him for the first time and knowing that they received a call of 'suspicious' activity'?

Put yourself in their shoes and ask how would you have handled it?

As for me, if a cop thought I was doing something suspicious, he has my full cooperation. By our making their job easier, they can better protect all of us.

This guy does not have a leg to stand on. I do not see where producing an ID is a major cause celebre (sp?) for a leftist reporter.

193 posted on 03/25/2003 7:34:31 PM PST by Michael.SF. (A nod is as good as a wink, to a blind horse.)
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